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Subject: vinegar and canned cream for substitute sour cream
From: Rita-Greer,SC
To: All
Date Posted: 09:30:34 12/02/11 ()
Email Address: rizita@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 74.182.115.191
Message:
Can I use these 2 together and make sour cream? How long does it take to cruddle? I ran out and thought I had a spare and now I'm in a bind.
Thanks!
Subject: Carmel icing wedding cake
From: JennD (NC)
To: All
Date Posted: 22:08:55 11/28/11 ()
Email Address: jpahnerdorff@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 96.10.243.54
Message:
I've been asked to do my cousin's wedding cake. His bride grew up on caramel icing. I gave the recipe a try tonight and found that it is more a consistency of ganache and looks very homemade, very hard to make the sides look pretty. Does anyone have a caramel icing that looks pretty for a wedding cake? I'm very use to buttercream and fondant. This is new territory for me.
Subject: Fondant character
From: Lori
To: All
Date Posted: 00:53:13 11/03/11 ()
Email Address: Lobaldw3@aol.com
Entered From: at 24.93.244.112
Message:
Trying to make a fondant cartoon character, but having a difficult
time keeping the little guy together. I used toothpicks but that is not
working. Suggestions??? Please!
Subject: I'm Back!
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:09:24 09/29/11 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 184.61.70.222
Message:
So nice to be back on this board again. Hello everyone
Subject: Black and white calla lilies
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:12:55 09/29/11 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 184.61.70.222
Message:
Oh good, that message worked. Now for my question. Recently made black centers dusted with black disco dust - for calla lilies then surrounded the black center with white gumpaste. The black disco got all over the white gumpaste. Has anyone done bi-colored calla lilies and found a solution to this problem. I've thought of keeping the inner tongues straight instead of arched and slipping them into a straw while applying the outer lily flower???? Suggestions?
Subject: Re: Black and white calla lilies
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 17:20:49 10/28/11 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 66.161.210.98
Message:
Isn't there a way that you can paint with dusts? I think I read you can add lemon juice or alchohol or something. If it could be painted on wet, it shouldn't give you that problem.We have some notes with the dusts...from other people. Hope this helps.
Dolores
Subject: Re: Black and white calla lilies
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 18:38:28 10/28/11 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 184.61.70.222
Message:
: Isn't there a way that you can paint with dusts? I think I read you can add lemon juice or alchohol or something. If it could be painted on wet, it shouldn't give you that problem.We have some notes with the dusts...from other people. Hope this helps.
Dolores
Thanks Dolores but the black sparkles come off on the white calla lilies. I wonder what would happen if I sprayed them with edible sugar gloss - the stuff you spray on fondant and gumpaste for a nice sheen.
Subject: testing
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:13 09/29/11 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 66.161.210.98
Message:
Some passwords weren't working so the test. Dolores
Subject: Re: testing
From: Serena
To: All
Date Posted: 13:31:53 09/29/11 ()
Email Address: sbaume@tc3net.com
Entered From: at 64.112.221.248
Message:
: Some passwords weren't working so the test. Dolores
I was able to get in so it is working.
Subject: How to make torah scrolls
From: Janice
To: All
Date Posted: 19:14:38 05/20/11 ()
Email Address: jspofford@charter.net
Entered From: at 24.181.226.242
Message:
Hi All, This site http://dessertworks.net/galleries/mitzvah_gallery/mitzvah.html has great mitzvah cakes, with scrolls that are described as handmade from rolled chocolate. Any ideas how they are made? Thanks for any help
Subject: Re: How to make torah scrolls
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:37 06/23/11 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 66.161.210.98
Message:
WOW! Pretty cakes. The scrolls just look piped on. But I guess she must make candy clay (recipe with my gumpaste stuff), and rolled them out. Must be very time consuming. Dolores
: Hi All, This site http://dessertworks.net/galleries/mitzvah_gallery/mitzvah.html has great mitzvah cakes, with scrolls that are described as handmade from rolled chocolate. Any ideas how they are made? Thanks for any help
Subject: Please help asap
From: jennyC
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:01 09/25/10 ()
Email Address: vaderjen@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 68.95.249.227
Message:
DH got got cake mix for me that requires butter... without getting any butter. How much vegtable oil substitutes for 1 stick of butter?
Thanks,
Jenny
Subject: Re: Please help asap
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:10 12/28/10 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.83.38.244
Message:
That woud never work and no use to try.
Dolores
Subject: Biggins book cake help
From: Diana Moskal
To: All
Date Posted: 04:49:27 09/22/10 ()
Email Address: dmpgh0731@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 24.3.53.107
Message:
Hi! I have never decorated a shaped cake. Can anyone tell me how to smoothly ice a boob cakes using the Biggins pan? Thanks!
Subject: Re: Biggins book cake help
From: Sue Phillips
To: All
Date Posted: 19:12:04 09/24/10 ()
Email Address: info@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
Our bakery used a bent 8 inch spatula and the cake icer tip #789
(http://www.sugarcraft.com/catalog/misc/tips.htm#icertip). Then when
icing is dry to touch lay a paper towel (find one without texture) over
the icing and gently rub out lines. It smooths the icing perfectly. We
used this method on all of our cakes... even the textured paper towel
caused the customer to ask "how did you get that neat texture on the
icing?".
Have FUN!
Sue Phillips
www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: Biggins book cake help
From: Diana Moskal
To: All
Date Posted: 05:09:32 09/25/10 ()
Email Address: dmpgh0731@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 24.3.53.107
Message:
Thank you so much for sharing! I'm making the cake tomorrow. I have the #789 tip and will shop for plain paper towels. Can you possibly share your icing recipe you use or would the regular Wilton buttercream recipe dry to the touch? The icing I use does not dry to the touch. Your help is greatly appreciated by me and the recipient to be!
Subject: Re: Biggins book cake help
From: Sue Phillips
To: All
Date Posted: 19:08:20 09/27/10 ()
Email Address: info@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
Dolores has all our secret receips at
http://www.sugarcraft.com/PRIVATE/recipes/all-recipes.htm
But here is our tried and true Buttercream recipe:
3/4 cup alpine icing shortening
up to 1/2 cup liquid (water or milk)
1 tsp clear vanilla flavor (imitation*)
1/4 tsp clear almond flavor (imitation*)
1/4 tsp clear butter flavor (imitation*)
pinch of salt
up to 2 pounds confectioner's sugar (sifter for better results)
add 1/4 cup of creme whip icing base during hot months.
Cream all ingredients on medium speed and mix in confectioner's
sugar to the consistency you prefer.
*imitation flavor has no alcohol. It has been diluted with water instead.
Have FUN!
Subject: Re: Biggins book cake help
From: Diana
To: All
Date Posted: 19:37:50 09/27/10 ()
Email Address: dmpgh0731@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 24.3.53.107
Message:
Thanks Sue!
Subject: May take more
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 16:32:30 12/28/10 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.83.38.244
Message:
It may take more water or milk. Have the icing thin enough to be spreadable.
Dolores
Subject: Oops... Biggins boob cake help
From: Diana Moskal
To: All
Date Posted: 05:18:52 09/24/10 ()
Email Address: dmpgh0731@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 24.3.53.107
Message:
: Hi! I have never decorated a shaped cake. Can anyone tell me how to smoothly ice a boob cakes using the Biggins pan? Thanks!
Subject: gingerbread creation
From: Margie Harmon
To: All
Date Posted: 14:10:48 09/21/10 ()
Email Address: Harmny2u@earthlink.net
Entered From: at 72.40.154.93
Message:
I have been asked to make a gingerbread creation for display during the Christmas season. I would like to make Cinderella's castle (Disney). Any suggestions on how to make the turrets from gingerbread. As the dough is soft while baking I'm afraid it won't keep it's shape on a cylinder or metal tube. I really don't want to use gumpaste or fondant.
Subject: Re: gingerbread creation
From: Sue Phillips
To: All
Date Posted: 19:23:01 09/24/10 ()
Email Address: info@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
Use a pointed sugar ice cream cone to make a pattern. Use pan liners
(http://www.sugarcraft.com/catalog/paper/paper.htm#panliners) to
bake the gingerbread on. Immediately after baking, wrap around the ice
cream cone (pan liner toward ice cream cone) to cool. Remove from ice
cream cone and remove the pan liner from inside of cone. Use royal
icing to connect the seems.
Have FUN!
Sue Phillips
www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: gingerbread creation
From: Margie Harmon
To: All
Date Posted: 23:29:52 09/24/10 ()
Email Address: Harmny2u@earthlink.net
Entered From: at 72.40.154.93
Message:
Will this method work for the round tower part? That's my real problem.
Have FUN!
Subject: Re: gingerbread creation
From: Sue Phillips
To: All
Date Posted: 09:51:01 09/25/10 ()
Email Address: info@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
Bake 1/2 round columns on parchment liners
(http://www.sugarcraft.com/catalog/paper/paper.htm#panliners) then
immediately lay over some taped together soup cans or oats box or
rolling pin to cool. We also offer rectangular bread molds #4918 or
#4916 that are 1/2 round that you can bake on also.
Take Pictures! Send them to us at proicer@sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: gingerbread creation
From: Margie Harmon
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:24 09/25/10 ()
Email Address: Harmny2u@earthlink.net
Entered From: at 72.40.154.93
Message:
Thanks so much! I'll give it a try!
Subject: Thawing frozen cakes successfully
From: Julie Diveley
To: All
Date Posted: 12:04:07 06/21/10 ()
Email Address: julesd906@comcast.net
Entered From: at 24.13.250.138
Message:
Can anyone give advise on how to successfully thaw a buttercream decorated cake without it sweeting? Thanks much! Julie
Subject: Re: Thawing frozen cakes successfully
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 22:49:44 08/02/10 ()
Email Address: frostyartist@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 208.81.197.105
Message:
Thaw it still wrapped in the refrigerator for 8 to 10 hours and then open it up and let it sit under a ceiling fan.
Subject: Re: Thawing frozen cakes successfully
From: Sue Phillips
To: All
Date Posted: 19:27:10 09/24/10 ()
Email Address: info@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
Neat idea. We always suggested to allow icing to completly crust then
wrap cake with saran wrap taking up all air space being careful not to
damage the decorations. Place in cake box then in freezer. Take out of
freezer at night, leaving wrapped and in box. In the morning remove
from box and saran carefully.
Have FUN!
Sue Phillips
www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Purse Cake
From: Carolyn - Iowa
To: All
Date Posted: 16:23:34 12/26/09 ()
Email Address: classiccakesanddesserts@msn.com
Entered From: at 75.167.76.97
Message:
I may be making a Purse cake for the first time. I don't normally work with fondant, other than appling pieces to buttercream iced cakes. Any help or easy ways of how these are done would be great! Can you place a filling inside these too?? I know you use stiffened buttercream for a dam, but, when the cake is standing up on it's side, I didn't know if that would work Ok or not?? Thanks!
Subject: Re: Purse Cake
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 16:39:06 12/28/10 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.83.38.244
Message:
The easiest way I can think of is to make it whatever shape needed first...I like a 8x10" cake cut in half and stand on ends with icing between(like making the old bunny cakes). Then use edible images applied for the decorations. We carry plaid and many designs. You might want to check our purse cake cutters etc under GUMPASTE- See links. Dolores
Subject: torte cake
From: Tracie Woodlee
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:53 10/20/09 ()
Email Address: tpwoodlee@gmail.com
Entered From: at 24.151.199.220
Message:
I am VERY new to decorating and am planning on making a torte cake to be served in 5 days. Can I freeze it or refrigerate it? Which would be best?
Subject: Re: torte cake
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 17:24:32 10/23/09 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
Welcome to the fun world of cake decorating!
I would refrigerate it only if using filling that would spoil. You can do it in 3 day increment:
1. bake
2. decorate it
3. deliver it...or it
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: torte cake
From: Tracie
To: All
Date Posted: 12:57:59 10/26/09 ()
Email Address: tpwoodlee@gmail.com
Entered From: at 24.151.199.220
Message:
Thank you for the welcome and the advice. I'm sure you'll be hearing from me again.
: Welcome to the fun world of cake decorating!
I would refrigerate it only if using filling that would spoil. You can do it in 3 day increment:
1. bake
2. decorate it
3. deliver it...or it
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: painting without petal dust
From: Dianne Myers
To: All
Date Posted: 16:13:37 08/17/09 ()
Email Address: dianne@yellowrosebakingco.com
Entered From: at 99.1.144.204
Message:
I've got a cake for this weekend that is trimmed in fondant bamboo and jasmine blossoms. No big deal except I'm out of brown petal dust, no one sells it around me, and I don't think my shipment will arrive in time. Any suggestions on what to use to enhance and accent the bamboo instead? I'm not sure if cocoa powder will work or be dark enough, but i'll try it. otherwise i'm stuck with very thin royal icing
Subject: Re: painting without petal dust
From: BB (AR)
To: All
Date Posted: 22:47:55 08/19/09 ()
Email Address: rbbrady@suddenlink.net
Entered From: at 74.194.90.89
Message:
I know my answer is to late to help with this cake.
I hope the cocoa worked for you. There are to things you can use when you run out of petal dust. Chalk are
eye shadow. It's not as good as petal dust but it will work. Hope this helps in the future.
BB
: I've got a cake for this weekend that is trimmed in fondant bamboo and jasmine blossoms. No big deal except I'm out of brown petal dust, no one sells it around me, and I don't think my shipment will arrive in time. Any suggestions on what to use to enhance and accent the bamboo instead? I'm not sure if cocoa powder will work or be dark enough, but i'll try it. otherwise i'm stuck with very thin royal icing
Subject: painting on fondant
From: Dianne Myers
To: All
Date Posted: 22:22:12 08/14/09 ()
Email Address: hstrychick@gmail.com
Entered From: at 99.1.144.204
Message:
I have a cake that isn't due up until November. However, the girl wants a duplicate of the Twilight novel, which is no big deal. She gave me a picture of what she wants, and the cover has a pair of hands holding an apple. I want to hand paint the hands but don't know what medium to use. Do I use diluted icing coloring or some sort of dust? She's the daughter of a friend of mine and though I can paint in oils on canvas, I don't know what to use for the fondant.
Thanks so much!
Subject: To sift or not to sift?
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 22:26:12 08/08/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
For those of you who use powdered sugar-based buttercreams, do you sift your powdered sugar or not?
I always have, but I get so tired of doing it...but I don't think I've every done it any other way!
Subject: Re: To sift or not to sift?
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 20:05:18 08/22/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.116.209
Message:
I buy mine in 50# bags at Sam's or Costco and I never sift. Once in a great while, it will be a bit lumpy to start with, but most of it beats out if you put the powdered sugar in first and let it stir good before adding the rest of the ingredients.
Subject: Re: To sift or not to sift?
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 09:52:49 08/10/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 76.0.81.214
Message:
If the powdered sugar is packaged in a plastic bag, there is no need to sift it. If it's in a box or if you buy the huge 25 lb. paper bags of it at Sam's or Costco, then it does need to be sifted. If packaged in cardboard or paper, moisture gets into it and causes lumps. This isn't a factor if packaged in plastic. I buy it in 7 lb. bags at Sam's, and I never sift it.
: For those of you who use powdered sugar-based buttercreams, do you sift your powdered sugar or not?
I always have, but I get so tired of doing it...but I don't think I've every done it any other way!
Subject: Pouring Chocolate Ganache over a cake
From: Judy-California
To: All
Date Posted: 19:52:05 06/24/09 ()
Email Address: cakewhiz@aol.com
Entered From: at 71.146.136.96
Message:
I need to pour some chocolate ganache over a tier for a wedding cake
so that it drips down the sides of the cake. I have covered the tier in
buttercream and chilled it. I am having problems with the chocolate
ganache pouring too quickly and running down the sides and off the
cake or pouring the ganache and it stops running to quickly. Does
anyone have any tips for me on how to do this successfully. I have
worked with ganache before with no problems .....however I covered
the entire tier with ganache.....this time I just need the top covered and
some drips down the sides. Thanks,
Subject: Re: Pouring Chocolate Ganache over a cake
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 09:57:04 07/12/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.116.209
Message:
I know this is probably way too late as I haven't been on here in awhile, but maybe let the ganache start to set a bit before pouring it on?
Subject: Re: Pouring Chocolate Ganache over a cake
From: Judy-California
To: All
Date Posted: 10:33:26 07/12/09 ()
Email Address: cakewhiz@aol.com
Entered From: at 71.146.143.174
Message:
I figured it out myself and this is how I did it. While the chocolate
ganache is still warm, I put it into a small pouring pitcher. Very slowly,
I started pouring the ganache about one inch from the edge of the top
of the tier down over the side of the cake controlling the dripping and
turning the cake as I poured. Once I got all around the top edge of the
cake and all the dripping was in place on the sides of the tier, I poured
the ganache on the top middle of the cake and spread the ganache
with a knife out to the original one inch starting point. This was so
easy.....anything is easy when you know how to do it.
Subject: rotating cakes
From: gdm
To: All
Date Posted: 09:36:37 06/08/09 ()
Email Address: marshcakes@aol.com
Entered From: at 71.209.43.40
Message:
I have somebody who wants a turntable cake and wants it to rotate. Any information available on how to install a motor in a cake.
Subject: Re: rotating cakes
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 07:47:48 06/25/09 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
Are you familair with our electric turntable? It is a dream to use. If you need to use it for display at a wedding, I would drape it with satin or someting I guess.
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Any cake bakers in Topeka KS?
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 23:33:02 05/27/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreatcakes@surewest.net
Entered From: at 66.205.151.68
Message:
I know someone looking for a bakery for a birthday cake.
Subject: Bubbles under fondant
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:56 05/27/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreatcakes@surewest.net
Entered From: at 66.205.151.68
Message:
I frost my cakes in buttercream and cover with fondant and after they sit for a while large bubbles start to form under the fondant. What could cause this? Is it my buttercream should I try another recipe? I use a crusting buttercream. I poke the bubbles with a small pin and smooth and everything looks good for awhile and then they start to come back. I have a guitar cake this weekend and don't want to have the same problem.
Subject: Re: Bubbles under fondant
From: Bridgette
To: All
Date Posted: 18:52:10 05/27/09 ()
Email Address: cakesondemand@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.199.129.66
Message:
Typically when you cover a cake with fondant, you want to have had the cake crumb iced and settled for several hours and most of the time, I let it sit overnight in the refrigerator. If the cake hasn't settled when you cover it, there will be air releasing from the cake as it settles, causing the bubbles.
: I frost my cakes in buttercream and cover with fondant and after they sit for a while large bubbles start to form under the fondant. What could cause this? Is it my buttercream should I try another recipe? I use a crusting buttercream. I poke the bubbles with a small pin and smooth and everything looks good for awhile and then they start to come back. I have a guitar cake this weekend and don't want to have the same problem.
Subject: Re: Bubbles under fondant
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 22:57:03 05/27/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreatcakes@surewest.net
Entered From: at 66.205.151.68
Message:
Does it make a difference if I use a crusting butter cream? I have noticed when I let it sit the fondant doesn't want to stick to the frosting. Should I mist the icing with a little water before covering with fondant? Have you ever used chocolate butter cream under colored fondant and if so does it show through? TIA.
: Typically when you cover a cake with fondant, you want to have had the cake crumb iced and settled for several hours and most of the time, I let it sit overnight in the refrigerator. If the cake hasn't settled when you cover it, there will be air releasing from the cake as it settles, causing the bubbles.
: I frost my cakes in buttercream and cover with fondant and after they sit for a while large bubbles start to form under the fondant. What could cause this? Is it my buttercream should I try another recipe? I use a crusting buttercream. I poke the bubbles with a small pin and smooth and everything looks good for awhile and then they start to come back. I have a guitar cake this weekend and don't want to have the same problem.
Subject: Re: Bubbles under fondant
From: Bridgette
To: All
Date Posted: 06:50:06 05/28/09 ()
Email Address: cakesondemand@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 168.189.64.96
Message:
You will not see a difference in the air bubbles, the same technique of letting the cake settle should be applied with all icing types when covering with fondant. You will, however, see a difference with the fondant sticking, crusting buttercream will dry out...you are correct in that you should wet it slightly or use regular buttercream.
I have not used chocolate buttercream under fondant, but you will not be able to see the icing underneath the fondant unless your fondant is rolled too thinly. If you stick to 1/4" rule, you can ice the cake in anything including fudge.
: Does it make a difference if I use a crusting butter cream? I have noticed when I let it sit the fondant doesn't want to stick to the frosting. Should I mist the icing with a little water before covering with fondant? Have you ever used chocolate butter cream under colored fondant and if so does it show through? TIA.
: Typically when you cover a cake with fondant, you want to have had the cake crumb iced and settled for several hours and most of the time, I let it sit overnight in the refrigerator. If the cake hasn't settled when you cover it, there will be air releasing from the cake as it settles, causing the bubbles.
: I frost my cakes in buttercream and cover with fondant and after they sit for a while large bubbles start to form under the fondant. What could cause this? Is it my buttercream should I try another recipe? I use a crusting buttercream. I poke the bubbles with a small pin and smooth and everything looks good for awhile and then they start to come back. I have a guitar cake this weekend and don't want to have the same problem.
Subject: cake boards
From: Chris
To: All
Date Posted: 21:03:36 05/25/09 ()
Email Address: bclake@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 75.23.83.75
Message:
I was wanting to start using a cake board thick enough to wrap a ribbon and tiny bow around for extra detail. (like Michelle from cakestrings.) Does anyone know what she uses to put her cakes on? Would cake drums work? Thanks in advance for any help! :)
Subject: Re: cake boards
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 20:38:30 05/31/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.116.209
Message:
Michelle's husband works for a box company and they cut boards for me and they cut my cake boards and they are triple thick cardboard where your cake will not flex. I hate having a beautifully decorated cake and then when you pick it up, it cracks all over the place. I have 16 x 24 boards cut and that accommodates my 12 x 18 cakes with room for nice borders plus I cut them for my 9 x 13 and 10 x 15 cakes and cut them at 11" which gives me 13" left over so that means that the boards are 11 x 16 and 13 x 16 which works great. They aren't cheap, but what is??
Subject: Re: cake boards
From: Chris
To: All
Date Posted: 21:20:49 05/31/09 ()
Email Address: clake35@gmail.com
Entered From: at 75.23.83.75
Message:
Can anyone order these? What company does he work for? I would love to put my cakes on those as well!! Having that thick edge to wrap ribbons around is so nice for that extra detail! Thanks for the reply!!
: Michelle's husband works for a box company and they cut boards for me and they cut my cake boards and they are triple thick cardboard where your cake will not flex. I hate having a beautifully decorated cake and then when you pick it up, it cracks all over the place. I have 16 x 24 boards cut and that accommodates my 12 x 18 cakes with room for nice borders plus I cut them for my 9 x 13 and 10 x 15 cakes and cut them at 11" which gives me 13" left over so that means that the boards are 11 x 16 and 13 x 16 which works great. They aren't cheap, but what is??
Subject: Re: cake boards
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 16:00:50 06/01/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
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I would think anyone could order them. I am not sure what the name of the company is, but it is in south Kansas City, MO. It is just a box company. I will check and see if I can find my notes on it. I pay almost $2 per board that is 16 x 24 and I'd bet it would cost that much to have them delivered also. I'd check around where you live and see if you could find a box company and you could pick them up. They may have a minimum that you could order however. I order at least 500 at a time.
Subject: cake boards
From: Marida
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Date Posted: 17:45:53 05/27/09 ()
Email Address: MaridaBinsted@msn.com
Entered From: at 96.255.236.17
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We use 1/4 inch masonite and cover them. Cake drums
will work also.
Subject: Fondant and chocolate frosting.
From: Angela
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Date Posted: 02:50:23 05/23/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreatcakes@surewest.net
Entered From: at 66.205.151.68
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I have a guitar cake due next weekend and the little girl wants chocolate cake, filling and frosting. Has anyone ever covered chocolate frosting with colored fondant? The fondant will be dark pink will the chocolate show through or should I stick with buttercream frosting?TIA
Subject: Re: Fondant and chocolate frosting.
From: Bridgette
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Date Posted: 18:53:51 05/27/09 ()
Email Address: cakesondemand@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.199.129.66
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You should not have any problems with the chocolate icing showing through the fondant as long as you roll it to the correct thickness, about 1/4". The hardest part will be keeping the pink fondant clean while covering the cake...
I have a guitar cake due next weekend and the little girl wants chocolate cake, filling and frosting. Has anyone ever covered chocolate frosting with colored fondant? The fondant will be dark pink will the chocolate show through or should I stick with buttercream frosting?TIA
Subject: Gum Paste/Fondant in a Food Dehydrator
From: Laura
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Date Posted: 09:40:46 05/22/09 ()
Email Address: laurapolito@gmail.com
Entered From: at 68.228.9.4
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Can I put gum paste and or fondant in a food dehydrator to dry? What temperature should be used?
Subject: Re: Gum Paste/Fondant in a Food Dehydrator
From: Dolores
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Date Posted: 16:44:51 05/28/09 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
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I know you can because decorators have mentioned it in seminars. I don't remember the temp they used. I know I've put things in a reg. oven. At 200 deg. they will brown. Thats what not to do.
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: How do I do this?
From: Janice S.
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Date Posted: 09:03:26 04/30/09 ()
Email Address: jspofford@charter.net
Entered From: at 68.116.173.250
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Hi all. I have never made a cake like this one in the link http://www.weddingcakelady.com/small/sm-fullrose.jpg how do you arrange the flowers between the tiers? How does this work? Any help would be great.
Subject: How do I do this
From: Marida Binsted
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Date Posted: 12:41:47 04/30/09 ()
Email Address: MaridaBinsted@msn.com
Entered From: at 96.255.133.124
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We have done similar cakes. We call that our hidden pillar cake and have done it in three and four tiers many times. There should be some on my website which is www.cakesbymarida.com What we do is put the cakes on plates, use the five inch pillars, and then put the flowers between the tiers at the wedding.
Subject: Re: How do I do this
From: janice s.
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Date Posted: 12:51:12 04/30/09 ()
Email Address: jspofford@charter.net
Entered From: at 68.116.173.250
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Thanks for the info. Do you put the flowers in something or just lay them on the top of the tier. I would put parchment down under them, but do they go in a floral foam or something?
Subject: Re: How do I do this
From: Carolyn (MO)
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Date Posted: 04:57:17 05/01/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
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I'd just put the parchment or wax paper down and lay the flowers on it. Better yet, let the florist do it!
Subject: Frosting -HELP!
From: Caroline-Md
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Date Posted: 19:37:12 04/20/09 ()
Email Address: 6alliekids@gmail.com
Entered From: at 69.250.90.115
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I have been having the gardest time lately with my frosting. There are cracks in it everytime. I'm not sure of iy has too high of a ratio of sugar to fat??? I like a crusting frosting but can't stand the way the cracks look...
A new recipe maybe??
Thanks for any help or advice!
Caroline
Subject: Re: Frosting -HELP!
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 05:00:25 05/01/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
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Buttercream Icing - Carolyn Lawrence - Missouri - Bridal1@aol.com
4 pounds powdered sugar
2 cups Crisco (I now use Best Choice or Sweetex)
1/3 cup powdered milk mixed with enough hot water to make 1 cup
Add to the milk:
1/2 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. clear vanilla
1/2 tsp. clear butter flavoring
1/2 tsp. almond
1/2 tsp. creme royale or creme bouquet (optional)
Add 1/2 cup cornstarch and beat well for about 15 minutes.
This can be kept out of the refrigerator for around 2 weeks, I'd say. I usually use it so fast that I hardly ever get it in
the refrigerator unless I am going out of town for a few days and then it can also be frozen. The cornstarch helps
humidity as well as helping to cut the sweetness. Play with it and use whatever flavorings you like.
For Chocolate icing, I just add Hershey's cocoa/any cocoa would work and some
extra hot water to my buttercream. If you want a darker brown color, you can also
add more brown coloring. Enjoy!
Cream Cheese Buttercream (my adaptation of Kathy Finholt's recipe)
1 cup butter
1 cup crisco (or I use a shortening with transfat in it now as the crisco doesn't work as well for me)
16 oz. cream cheese at room temp.
10 cups of powdered sugar
1 Tablespoon vanilla
1/2 tsp. salt
Mix on low speed.
Subject: Re: Frosting -HELP!
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 11:54:41 04/22/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.51.41.244
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I also use a crusting buttercream, and some of the things that can cause cracks to form in it are:
1. If the board your cake is on is too thin, it will flex and cause the cake to bend slightly and the icing to crack.
2. If the cake isn't perfectly level, then it will tend to settle after it has been iced. If it settles unevenly (because it was uneven to begin with), then cracks may form in the icing.
3. If you ice the cake while it is frozen, then as it thaws and the icing dries, cracks may form in the icing. To prevent this, crumb-coat it while frozen and allow it to come to room temperature until it is completely thawed; then ice as usual.
: I have been having the gardest time lately with my frosting. There are cracks in it everytime. I'm not sure of iy has too high of a ratio of sugar to fat??? I like a crusting frosting but can't stand the way the cracks look...
A new recipe maybe??
Thanks for any help or advice!
Caroline
Subject: Re: Frosting -HELP!
From: Marida
To: All
Date Posted: 06:32:51 04/21/09 ()
Email Address: MaridaBinsted@msn.Com
Entered From: at 96.255.133.124
Message:
Here is the one I have used for over 20 years. It is simple.
3 sticks of butter
2 cups of Crisco
2 Tbls. vanilla
2 pounds of conf. sugar
Subject: metallic coloring
From: Chris
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:25 04/20/09 ()
Email Address: bclake@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 75.20.213.231
Message:
How do you get fondant or regular buttercream to have silver metallic coloring? Do you have to paint it on with something or just mix in some kind of special product? I tried tinting fondant grey and then I painted with a silver luster dust/lemon juice mixture but it didn't work at all.
Subject: Re: metallic coloring
From: Chris
To: All
Date Posted: 23:05:02 05/26/09 ()
Email Address: bclake@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 75.23.83.75
Message:
Thanks a bunch for the help, much appreciated!!! :)
Subject: Re: metallic coloring
From: anna n
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Date Posted: 11:50:08 04/22/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.51.41.244
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I use a crusting buttercream and let it dry for several hours. Then mix your metallic dust with vodka and hand paint it onto the buttercream (or fondant). The alcohol in the vodka causes it to dry quickly and not get the buttercream too wet, and by the time it dries, you can't taste the vodka. I've done several cakes this way, and it works really well.
: How do you get fondant or regular buttercream to have silver metallic coloring? Do you have to paint it on with something or just mix in some kind of special product? I tried tinting fondant grey and then I painted with a silver luster dust/lemon juice mixture but it didn't work at all.
Subject: Re: metallic coloring
From: Mary K
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:53 04/20/09 ()
Email Address: jnkfree@frontiernet.net
Entered From: at 70.100.90.83
Message:
That is how I usually do it, perhaps you have the mixture too thin, I use quite a thick mixture. One other thing you could do, is order some of the new silver pearl, sheen,or shimmer airbrush color from Delores, she carries at least two different brands. I haven't tried them yet, so I can not tell you how they work.
: How do you get fondant or regular buttercream to have silver metallic coloring? Do you have to paint it on with something or just mix in some kind of special product? I tried tinting fondant grey and then I painted with a silver luster dust/lemon juice mixture but it didn't work at all.
Subject: Carved cake
From: Deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 19:15:12 03/29/09 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.215.177
Message:
Hi all! I need your help. I have a customer who has requested I do a "The Big Lebowski" cake. Charm City Cakes Ace of cakes did one that she wants me to use as my inspiration(if you do a google search it will come up). Here is my quandry, I have a few options and I am not sure which is the best one. #1-I was going to make a 1/2 sheet and cover it with fondant then paint an area rug directly on the cake and sit a loaf pan sized toe made of cake on it. #2-Make an area rug out of fondant and hand paint the details of the area rug on and lay it diagonaly on a 1/2 sheet that has allready been covered in fondant or BC so that it hangs off and is draped on the bottom cake and can be lifted off for cutting. Then make a toe out of a loaf pan sized cake and place it on the rug. #3-paint the rug on fondant and lay it on a cake board then make a huge toe cake and have only the toe as edible cake. If I do this one I cannot figure out how much cake I need to make (only needs to serve 40). I also would want to use a cake that is firm enough for carving as I have never done it and I am not sure if boxed mixes will hold up to the carving. PLEASE tell me what your opinion is. I really need some guidance on this one. By the way, I will also be doing a backdrop like the C.C.C. version has and it will be made out of gumpaste (mounted on a board of somesort).
Subject: Re: Carved cake
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:39 04/04/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.99.151
Message:
A regular cake mix will stand up fine if you mix a box of instant pudding in with it and a little more liquid - plus FREEZE THE CAKE before carving the toe out.
: Hi all! I need your help. I have a customer who has requested I do a "The Big Lebowski" cake. Charm City Cakes Ace of cakes did one that she wants me to use as my inspiration(if you do a google search it will come up). Here is my quandry, I have a few options and I am not sure which is the best one. #1-I was going to make a 1/2 sheet and cover it with fondant then paint an area rug directly on the cake and sit a loaf pan sized toe made of cake on it. #2-Make an area rug out of fondant and hand paint the details of the area rug on and lay it diagonaly on a 1/2 sheet that has allready been covered in fondant or BC so that it hangs off and is draped on the bottom cake and can be lifted off for cutting. Then make a toe out of a loaf pan sized cake and place it on the rug. #3-paint the rug on fondant and lay it on a cake board then make a huge toe cake and have only the toe as edible cake. If I do this one I cannot figure out how much cake I need to make (only needs to serve 40). I also would want to use a cake that is firm enough for carving as I have never done it and I am not sure if boxed mixes will hold up to the carving. PLEASE tell me what your opinion is. I really need some guidance on this one. By the way, I will also be doing a backdrop like the C.C.C. version has and it will be made out of gumpaste (mounted on a board of somesort).
Subject: Tilted (topsy turfy) Cake
From: Jane
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:49 03/18/09 ()
Email Address: stopher55@charter.net
Entered From: at 24.100.86.194
Message:
Help Please!!!!! I need to know how to stack, cut or what ever I need to do, to make a tilting 3 tiered cake.
Subject: Re: Tilted (topsy turfy) Cake
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:47 03/23/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.116.209
Message:
Write me Jane if you haven't found the answer to your question - bridal1@aol.com
Subject: Pricing Cakes
From: Jane
To: All
Date Posted: 10:17:23 03/18/09 ()
Email Address: stopher55@charter.net
Entered From: at 24.100.86.194
Message:
Ok, I feel like I'm not charging enough for my cakes. I need some advice please. Can someone tell me what you would charge for 6-8-10-12-14-16" cakes. And what would you charge for a castle cake? I have been charging 75.00 for a 14" bottom and 10" on top. (two tired). Help?
Subject: Re: Pricing Cakes
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:03:27 03/22/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.100.45
Message:
Ok, I'm not in the most monied community in the USA and I charge twice as much for my cakes as you. There are a lot of things to factor into your pricing decision. 1.) how long have you been decorating. 2.) are your cakes ok, good,or better than your competition. 3.) Where are you located, decorators in a large city or near the ocean or mountain resorts can command higher prices than decorators in PlowShare Idaho or CottonField Tenn. 4.) Have you been to your competitor to see what they're charging, have you been to wedding shows and picked up brochures to compare skills with price, have you joined a cake club and talked with other bakers in your area. And lastly, if you have raised your prices, are you finding that you have fewer orders or did they stay the same? Like I said, there's no easy answer so it's best to hit the road and do some spying. Calling another decorator and pretending to be interested in ordering a cake then getting her prices also works. :-) I've done it and I've had it done to me. You can tell when you're being pumped for information because another decorator will know way too much about icings, fillings, and the way the cake business works.
: Ok, I feel like I'm not charging enough for my cakes. I need some advice please. Can someone tell me what you would charge for 6-8-10-12-14-16" cakes. And what would you charge for a castle cake? I have been charging 75.00 for a 14" bottom and 10" on top. (two tired). Help?
Subject: Re: Pricing Cakes
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 22:04:57 03/20/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.116.209
Message:
Jane, I charge $2.50 per serving for tiered cakes. If it serves 100, then I get $250, etc. For the 14" bottom and 10" top, I figure that served about 100. If it was for a wedding, I would have added a 6" on top and not charged for that. Some charge for the top tier, but I don't. That's just the way it's done in my area - the top cake for the 1st anniversary.
Subject: Attaching fondant swags to buttercream
From: Jane
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:56 03/18/09 ()
Email Address: stopher55@charter.net
Entered From: at 24.100.86.194
Message:
Can you attach rfondant swags to buttercream, and how do you do that to make them stay?
Subject: Re: Attaching fondant swags to buttercream
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 23:13:03 03/18/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.51.41.244
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Yes, you can. I use a crusting buttercream and after smoothing it on the cake, let it sit for several hours or overnight so that it will be really firm. Then I roll the fondant out very thin and shape the swags. I put a little water where the swags will be touching the surface of the cake and then place the swags on, gently pressing them into place. Let dry well before transporting the cake. If you're doing a stacked cake, you can bring the ends of the swags up enough that they will be under the support structure of the upper tier, and that will help to anchor them.
: Can you attach rfondant swags to buttercream, and how do you do that to make them stay?
Subject: Re: Attaching fondant swags to buttercream
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:54:58 03/22/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.100.45
Message:
You can also use a little fresh buttercream to attach them. I've also made little "round gumpaste buttons" on toothpicks or florist wires to pin the swags to the cake and add a cute decoration at each juncture.
: Yes, you can. I use a crusting buttercream and after smoothing it on the cake, let it sit for several hours or overnight so that it will be really firm. Then I roll the fondant out very thin and shape the swags. I put a little water where the swags will be touching the surface of the cake and then place the swags on, gently pressing them into place. Let dry well before transporting the cake. If you're doing a stacked cake, you can bring the ends of the swags up enough that they will be under the support structure of the upper tier, and that will help to anchor them.
: Can you attach rfondant swags to buttercream, and how do you do that to make them stay?
Subject: What would you do??
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 08:15:51 03/10/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.51.41.244
Message:
This is a first for me, and I'm not sure what I should do. A few weeks ago I met a girl (for the first time) to plan her wedding cake. She paid my deposit, and everything is in place for the upcoming wedding. Yesterday, I received an invitation to a bridal shower given in her honor. Keep in mind that she is not a friend or daughter of a friend--I'd never met her until she came to choose her wedding cake. I think it was in poor taste for them to send a shower invitation to someone who is just a business contact, and my (and my husband's) feeling is that I should not send a gift because this just seems to be a gift request. On the other hand, I don't want to alienate a customer who might potentially send other customers my way. What would you do?
Subject: Re: What would you do??
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 09:13:11 03/12/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.51.41.244
Message:
Sorry about the other post with no message. What I was going to say in that one is "Thank you" to all who responded to my original post. I feel better knowing that all of you agree with me on this one.
: This is a first for me, and I'm not sure what I should do. A few weeks ago I met a girl (for the first time) to plan her wedding cake. She paid my deposit, and everything is in place for the upcoming wedding. Yesterday, I received an invitation to a bridal shower given in her honor. Keep in mind that she is not a friend or daughter of a friend--I'd never met her until she came to choose her wedding cake. I think it was in poor taste for them to send a shower invitation to someone who is just a business contact, and my (and my husband's) feeling is that I should not send a gift because this just seems to be a gift request. On the other hand, I don't want to alienate a customer who might potentially send other customers my way. What would you do?
Subject: Re: What would you do??
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:33 03/12/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.51.41.244
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: This is a first for me, and I'm not sure what I should do. A few weeks ago I met a girl (for the first time) to plan her wedding cake. She paid my deposit, and everything is in place for the upcoming wedding. Yesterday, I received an invitation to a bridal shower given in her honor. Keep in mind that she is not a friend or daughter of a friend--I'd never met her until she came to choose her wedding cake. I think it was in poor taste for them to send a shower invitation to someone who is just a business contact, and my (and my husband's) feeling is that I should not send a gift because this just seems to be a gift request. On the other hand, I don't want to alienate a customer who might potentially send other customers my way. What would you do?
Subject: Re: What would you do??
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 20:42:53 03/10/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
I agree...if this is not a friend or acquaintance, then you should not feel obligated to oblige an invitation with a gift. Besides, as a busy decorator, you have little free time to attend events! If you still feel you should acknowledge the invitiation, reply with a nice greeting card.
: This is a first for me, and I'm not sure what I should do. A few weeks ago I met a girl (for the first time) to plan her wedding cake. She paid my deposit, and everything is in place for the upcoming wedding. Yesterday, I received an invitation to a bridal shower given in her honor. Keep in mind that she is not a friend or daughter of a friend--I'd never met her until she came to choose her wedding cake. I think it was in poor taste for them to send a shower invitation to someone who is just a business contact, and my (and my husband's) feeling is that I should not send a gift because this just seems to be a gift request. On the other hand, I don't want to alienate a customer who might potentially send other customers my way. What would you do?
Subject: I agree with Jeff
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 23:12:12 03/11/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.101.27
Message:
I often get invited or asked by the bride I've bonded with if I might be able to attend their wedding. I blush and respectfully decline and say something funny like "If I attended every wedding I was invited to I'd weigh a ton". Then just laugh it off. In your case I'd email in my regrets if they gave an email address on the card and say that you have a cakes booked for that day but you thank them for thinking of you. No gift. :-) It's actually a nice compliment to invite you - she really likes and trusts you. Oh and sometimes the invite is a trap. Hey, since you're coming, why not bring a cake. Can you tell I've been there, done that.
: I agree...if this is not a friend or acquaintance, then you should not feel obligated to oblige an invitation with a gift. Besides, as a busy decorator, you have little free time to attend events! If you still feel you should acknowledge the invitiation, reply with a nice greeting card.
: This is a first for me, and I'm not sure what I should do. A few weeks ago I met a girl (for the first time) to plan her wedding cake. She paid my deposit, and everything is in place for the upcoming wedding. Yesterday, I received an invitation to a bridal shower given in her honor. Keep in mind that she is not a friend or daughter of a friend--I'd never met her until she came to choose her wedding cake. I think it was in poor taste for them to send a shower invitation to someone who is just a business contact, and my (and my husband's) feeling is that I should not send a gift because this just seems to be a gift request. On the other hand, I don't want to alienate a customer who might potentially send other customers my way. What would you do?
Subject: Re: I agree with Jeff
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 06:10:10 03/12/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
Besides....if you don't know the bride and her family, chances are you wouldn't know many people at the shower....who wants to sit in a room of strangers for two or three hours?
: I often get invited or asked by the bride I've bonded with if I might be able to attend their wedding. I blush and respectfully decline and say something funny like "If I attended every wedding I was invited to I'd weigh a ton". Then just laugh it off. In your case I'd email in my regrets if they gave an email address on the card and say that you have a cakes booked for that day but you thank them for thinking of you. No gift. :-) It's actually a nice compliment to invite you - she really likes and trusts you. Oh and sometimes the invite is a trap. Hey, since you're coming, why not bring a cake. Can you tell I've been there, done that.
: I agree...if this is not a friend or acquaintance, then you should not feel obligated to oblige an invitation with a gift. Besides, as a busy decorator, you have little free time to attend events! If you still feel you should acknowledge the invitiation, reply with a nice greeting card.
: This is a first for me, and I'm not sure what I should do. A few weeks ago I met a girl (for the first time) to plan her wedding cake. She paid my deposit, and everything is in place for the upcoming wedding. Yesterday, I received an invitation to a bridal shower given in her honor. Keep in mind that she is not a friend or daughter of a friend--I'd never met her until she came to choose her wedding cake. I think it was in poor taste for them to send a shower invitation to someone who is just a business contact, and my (and my husband's) feeling is that I should not send a gift because this just seems to be a gift request. On the other hand, I don't want to alienate a customer who might potentially send other customers my way. What would you do?
Subject: Icing A Cake
From: Melissa
To: All
Date Posted: 17:10:48 03/04/09 ()
Email Address: mlucier728@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 71.214.42.58
Message:
I was wondering if there is something out there to put on a cake after it has been cut or a certain type of icing. I was using a 12x18 pan & had to cut two of them to make a heart. I was using buttercream frosting that I thinned down. When I tried to apply it to the areas that I had cut the icing would not stick & once I forced it on there then I had lots of crumbs. I let it dry and then I had to apply more icing to cover the crumbs. Is there anything I can do to avoid this??
Thanks,
Melissa
Subject: Re: Icing A Cake
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 21:11:55 03/09/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.116.209
Message:
What I do on a cut cake is to take a large round tip and pipe the icing out of the bag to the side of the cake covering all areas and then take a knife and smooth it down some and then take your paper towel or whatever you use to get it nice and smooth and smooth it to the final result. Hope this is more clear than mud!!
Subject: Re: Icing A Cake
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:45 03/05/09 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.51.41.244
Message:
I do what Mary K does with a frozen cake that has been cut to shape except I don't cover with plastic wrap after the crumb coat is applied. I just leave it a room temp uncovered until the cake is thawed and the icing is dry to the touch. Then I apply the final coat of icing . This eliminates the extra step of letting it dry after the wrapping is removed.
: I was wondering if there is something out there to put on a cake after it has been cut or a certain type of icing. I was using a 12x18 pan & had to cut two of them to make a heart. I was using buttercream frosting that I thinned down. When I tried to apply it to the areas that I had cut the icing would not stick & once I forced it on there then I had lots of crumbs. I let it dry and then I had to apply more icing to cover the crumbs. Is there anything I can do to avoid this??
Thanks,
Melissa
Subject: Re: Icing A Cake
From: Mary K
To: All
Date Posted: 10:43:43 03/05/09 ()
Email Address: jnkfree@frontiernet.net
Entered From: at 74.36.53.16
Message:
I don't know how you can avoid the crumbs completely when cutting a cake like that, but I have found that it helps to have the cake frozen, cut it to the shape you need, and as soon as you have it cut, apply a crumb coat of frosting. Then wrap your cake in plastic wrap, until it has completely thawed. Remove the plastic wrap and let the crumb coat of frosting set up or crust. Then apply the finish coat of frosting.
: I was wondering if there is something out there to put on a cake after it has been cut or a certain type of icing. I was using a 12x18 pan & had to cut two of them to make a heart. I was using buttercream frosting that I thinned down. When I tried to apply it to the areas that I had cut the icing would not stick & once I forced it on there then I had lots of crumbs. I let it dry and then I had to apply more icing to cover the crumbs. Is there anything I can do to avoid this??
Thanks,
Melissa
Subject: jack in the box cake
From: Donna
To: All
Date Posted: 08:02:53 02/28/09 ()
Email Address: donna.shepperd@att.net
Entered From: at 75.40.75.207
Message:
I am looking for suggestions on how to make the lid of a jack in the box cake stand up. I appreciate any experience or ideas you may have! Thanks!
Subject: Re: jack in the box cake
From: Mary K
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:39 02/28/09 ()
Email Address: jnkfree@frontiernet.net
Entered From: at 74.36.53.16
Message:
I would get some quarter inch styrofoam, cut it to size and cover with either fondant, gum paste, or even buttercream. Run a strip of fondant or gum paste on the bottom edge of the lid where it rests on the the base cake, put half of the fondant strip on the lid and half on the base cake, making sort of a hinge. You can also add another strip on the out side of the lid the same way, this will hold the lid on the base cake. You might want to place a styrofoam wedge to hold the lid at the angle you need it. Glue the wedge to both cake and lid with frosting, royal icing. I hope that is clear to you and that it will help you. Good luck
: I am looking for suggestions on how to make the lid of a jack in the box cake stand up. I appreciate any experience or ideas you may have! Thanks!
Subject: Re: jack in the box cake
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 18:42:28 03/01/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.100.120
Message:
That's what I would suggest, foam core board - decorated - then leaning up against the jack in the box (after he's let out of the box).
: I would get some quarter inch styrofoam, cut it to size and cover with either fondant, gum paste, or even buttercream. Run a strip of fondant or gum paste on the bottom edge of the lid where it rests on the the base cake, put half of the fondant strip on the lid and half on the base cake, making sort of a hinge. You can also add another strip on the out side of the lid the same way, this will hold the lid on the base cake. You might want to place a styrofoam wedge to hold the lid at the angle you need it. Glue the wedge to both cake and lid with frosting, royal icing. I hope that is clear to you and that it will help you. Good luck
: I am looking for suggestions on how to make the lid of a jack in the box cake stand up. I appreciate any experience or ideas you may have! Thanks!
Subject: Re: jack in the box cake
From: Donna
To: All
Date Posted: 21:59:36 02/28/09 ()
Email Address: donna.shepperd@att.net
Entered From: at 75.40.75.207
Message:
Thank you for replying! I think I understand your suggestion about glueing a wedge to the cake to hold it. Is that in conjunction with the strips of fondant or instead of?
: I would get some quarter inch styrofoam, cut it to size and cover with either fondant, gum paste, or even buttercream. Run a strip of fondant or gum paste on the bottom edge of the lid where it rests on the the base cake, put half of the fondant strip on the lid and half on the base cake, making sort of a hinge. You can also add another strip on the out side of the lid the same way, this will hold the lid on the base cake. You might want to place a styrofoam wedge to hold the lid at the angle you need it. Glue the wedge to both cake and lid with frosting, royal icing. I hope that is clear to you and that it will help you. Good luck
: I am looking for suggestions on how to make the lid of a jack in the box cake stand up. I appreciate any experience or ideas you may have! Thanks!
Subject: jack in the box cake
From: Donna
To: All
Date Posted: 21:37:43 02/27/09 ()
Email Address: donna.shepperd@att.net
Entered From: at 75.40.75.207
Message:
I was wondering if anyone knew how to make the lid on a jack in the box cake stand up. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
Subject: how long can you keep a fondant covered cake out
From: jane stopher
To: All
Date Posted: 21:18:28 02/16/09 ()
Email Address: stopher55@charter.net
Entered From: at 24.100.4.136
Message:
OK here's my question. Once you cover the cake with the fondant, how long can the cake sit out until you serve it? Or do you cover the cake and then place the cake in the refrigerator? I'm confused. Like always, lol.
Subject: Re: how long can you keep a fondant covered cake out
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:32 02/17/09 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.196.80
Message:
Depending on the cake they can usually sit out for 2 days with no problems. Refrigerated fondant can have condensation on it as it comes to room temp and wet fondant is no fun.
Subject: What about Marshmellow fondant?
From: jane stopher
To: All
Date Posted: 21:13:49 02/16/09 ()
Email Address: stopher55@charter.net
Entered From: at 24.100.4.136
Message:
Wilton Fondant really taste nasty, and it does dry hard really fast and it tends to crack. I have a wedding cake to do, and was wondering about marshmellow fondant? Does it work well and is it easy to work with. Help, I'm lost and starting to panic.
Subject: Re: What about Marshmellow fondant?
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 13:16:43 02/17/09 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.196.80
Message:
I can't help with marshmallow fondant because I've never used it. Many people have and love it. If you can get it in time Satin Ice fondant is really good and easy to work with. Dolores sells it here at Sugarcraft - click on the online catalog button at the top of the page.
Subject: Cookie Glace
From: Belinda
To: All
Date Posted: 12:23:03 02/06/09 ()
Email Address: campi4@gmail.com
Entered From: at 70.124.27.154
Message:
Help!!! I use Toba Garrett's glace icing receipe and usually it is beautiful, but sometimes after a day or do, it turns cloudy (spotty). Has this happened to anyone else? I live in south Texas, could it be the climate? Please help. Thanks Belinda
Subject: waterproofing gumpaste
From: gdm
To: All
Date Posted: 11:06:54 02/03/09 ()
Email Address: marshcakes@aol.com
Entered From: at 207.200.116.203
Message:
Is there any way to waterproof gumpaste? It does not need to be edible.
Subject: Re: waterproofing gumpaste
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 13:18:47 02/17/09 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.196.80
Message:
As long as it doesn't need to be edible you could use cold porcelain instead of gumpaste. It works about the same except the cold porcelain shrinks a little as it dries. I don't have a recipe handy but I'm sure a google search will pop one up.
Subject: Re: waterproofing gumpaste
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:56 02/05/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.100.62
Message:
Gumpaste is made of sugar and water in any form is it's enemy. You could try coating it several times with food safe varnish. Several coats might help. Maybe dipping it into real varnish but then again you're putting yourself up for litigation because as soon as someone sees your sign saying that the flowers are made of sugar - guaranteed some idiot will break off a petal and put it in their mouth when they think no one is watching. I would go to your local large craft store and look at their spray on adhesives or fixatives section for ideas. The only other type of paste to use instead would be Mexican Paste, I'm sure you could find the recipe on line - which is made with school glue and dries like porcelain but doesn't have any stretch and dries out in seconds.
: Is there any way to waterproof gumpaste? It does not need to be edible.
Subject: Jeff update on cake you helped me with
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 15:54:24 02/01/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreatcakes@surewest.net
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
The cake was a nightmare. As I said before it was three cakes displayed over a fountain. The cakes were Tres Leches cake so they were heavier than normal cakes. The pillars that the lady gave me from the cake store didn't fit properly so I had to squeeze icing in between each one because they were leaning same thing with the others tiers. My mother thought the cake was going to fall down. The lady had me make a doll cake and wanted it on top. I had to explain that there would be to much weight because of the milks soaking the cakes so we displayed her in front to the cakes. People probably though we didn't know what we were doing because we kept moving cakes around. Musical cakes.LOL. So we decided that we could display her on one of the side cakes but that didn't work because of the stairs. Then she gives me a box of fresh and artificial flowers that she wants me to arrange around the cake and I was thinking this is not my job. Was so glad when it was done. They wanted us to stay and eat but we felt a little uncomfortable only the lady spoke English. My mother was so stressed she wanted to go home. Thank you for all your help. Why are Wilton's pillar so crappy? I have some CK pillars and use them with Wilton's plates and they fit nice and tight. The bad thing is I didn't have time to bring my camera so my mother made the lady take a picture before we left.
Subject: Re: Jeff update on cake you helped me with
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 19:14:14 02/06/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 170.185.149.19
Message:
Thanks for the update. I have been without power for 12 days since the ice storm hit KY. I thought that cake would be a first and last of its kind....but at least it made it through! Post a picture when you can.
: The cake was a nightmare. As I said before it was three cakes displayed over a fountain. The cakes were Tres Leches cake so they were heavier than normal cakes. The pillars that the lady gave me from the cake store didn't fit properly so I had to squeeze icing in between each one because they were leaning same thing with the others tiers. My mother thought the cake was going to fall down. The lady had me make a doll cake and wanted it on top. I had to explain that there would be to much weight because of the milks soaking the cakes so we displayed her in front to the cakes. People probably though we didn't know what we were doing because we kept moving cakes around. Musical cakes.LOL. So we decided that we could display her on one of the side cakes but that didn't work because of the stairs. Then she gives me a box of fresh and artificial flowers that she wants me to arrange around the cake and I was thinking this is not my job. Was so glad when it was done. They wanted us to stay and eat but we felt a little uncomfortable only the lady spoke English. My mother was so stressed she wanted to go home. Thank you for all your help. Why are Wilton's pillar so crappy? I have some CK pillars and use them with Wilton's plates and they fit nice and tight. The bad thing is I didn't have time to bring my camera so my mother made the lady take a picture before we left.
Subject: Jeff I posted the link to my picture on the photo page.
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 17:28:08 02/07/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@surewest.net
Entered From: at 65.78.156.245
Message:
: Thanks for the update. I have been without power for 12 days since the ice storm hit KY. I thought that cake would be a first and last of its kind....but at least it made it through! Post a picture when you can.
: The cake was a nightmare. As I said before it was three cakes displayed over a fountain. The cakes were Tres Leches cake so they were heavier than normal cakes. The pillars that the lady gave me from the cake store didn't fit properly so I had to squeeze icing in between each one because they were leaning same thing with the others tiers. My mother thought the cake was going to fall down. The lady had me make a doll cake and wanted it on top. I had to explain that there would be to much weight because of the milks soaking the cakes so we displayed her in front to the cakes. People probably though we didn't know what we were doing because we kept moving cakes around. Musical cakes.LOL. So we decided that we could display her on one of the side cakes but that didn't work because of the stairs. Then she gives me a box of fresh and artificial flowers that she wants me to arrange around the cake and I was thinking this is not my job. Was so glad when it was done. They wanted us to stay and eat but we felt a little uncomfortable only the lady spoke English. My mother was so stressed she wanted to go home. Thank you for all your help. Why are Wilton's pillar so crappy? I have some CK pillars and use them with Wilton's plates and they fit nice and tight. The bad thing is I didn't have time to bring my camera so my mother made the lady take a picture before we left.
Subject: Re: Jeff update on cake you helped me with
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 06:33:31 02/03/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.100.62
Message:
In cases like that, I use either a glue gun to hold the pillars to the plates or superglue - for added insurance. So happy for you that it's over.
: The cake was a nightmare. As I said before it was three cakes displayed over a fountain. The cakes were Tres Leches cake so they were heavier than normal cakes. The pillars that the lady gave me from the cake store didn't fit properly so I had to squeeze icing in between each one because they were leaning same thing with the others tiers. My mother thought the cake was going to fall down. The lady had me make a doll cake and wanted it on top. I had to explain that there would be to much weight because of the milks soaking the cakes so we displayed her in front to the cakes. People probably though we didn't know what we were doing because we kept moving cakes around. Musical cakes.LOL. So we decided that we could display her on one of the side cakes but that didn't work because of the stairs. Then she gives me a box of fresh and artificial flowers that she wants me to arrange around the cake and I was thinking this is not my job. Was so glad when it was done. They wanted us to stay and eat but we felt a little uncomfortable only the lady spoke English. My mother was so stressed she wanted to go home. Thank you for all your help. Why are Wilton's pillar so crappy? I have some CK pillars and use them with Wilton's plates and they fit nice and tight. The bad thing is I didn't have time to bring my camera so my mother made the lady take a picture before we left.
Subject: its great to be back
From: Clutch
To: All
Date Posted: 19:51:46 01/27/09 ()
Email Address: clutchcity34@nts-online.net
Entered From: at 216.167.133.237
Message:
Just wanted to say that its great to be back here....although it looks like alot of people are gone. I missed this place!!
Subject: Re: its great to be back
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 13:22:32 02/17/09 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.196.80
Message:
The only thing gone from me is my mind ;o}
Great to "see" you again Clutch!
Subject: Re: its great to be back
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 02:13:16 01/31/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
Welcome back Clutch!!
Subject: Re: its great to be back
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:38 01/28/09 ()
Email Address: pricer@nuvox.net
Entered From: at 216.215.128.14
Message:
Good to have you back too. Most are still here believe it or not. Hundreds have passwords. They seem just to be reading. A lot of people have signed in the first part of this year too. Dolores
Subject: DeniseNH question for you
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 11:15:12 01/23/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
I usually use Marida's vanilla mousse for my cake fillings. Do you have any other really good vanilla mousse fillings that I wouldn't have to worry about refrigeration? The party starts at 4:00pm or do you think the cake made with Marida's mousse would be ok left out? Do you have any suggestions on how to smooth whipped icing.? I hate working with the stuff but the lady really likes it. TIA.
Subject: not sure....
From: Kim D.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:08:17 01/28/09 ()
Email Address: Kdunn@woh.rr.com
Entered From: at 24.210.254.97
Message:
I am totally NOT sure about this answer, but I thought that a long time ago (when the other board was still up and running), that someone said the mousse was fine without refrigeration, at least for the day of the event. I believe that there was even a poster that actually used it as her actual icing on the outside of the cakes and had no problem with it sitting out after she delivered it. Like I said, I cannot be 100% for sure, but maybe since I have posted this, it will jog someone else's memory! I don't use this mousse, so I have no personal experience with it!
Kim
Subject: Not sure either
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 05:52:01 01/29/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.100.62
Message:
The only mousse I use is a mix of instant pudding and heavy cream - cut with a little regular milk when it gets too "stiff". Because I'm using cream, I really need to refrigerate it until the day it's used. The only mousse you don't need to refrigerate is the stuff that is sold in cake stores and comes prepackaged in sleeves. You may want to browse your pudding aisle and do research. Try a box of pudding with regular evaporated canned milk - not the sweetened kind - I'm not sure that needs refrigeration???? I don't use Marinda's icing so I can't help you there. Hope this helps.
: I am totally NOT sure about this answer, but I thought that a long time ago (when the other board was still up and running), that someone said the mousse was fine without refrigeration, at least for the day of the event. I believe that there was even a poster that actually used it as her actual icing on the outside of the cakes and had no problem with it sitting out after she delivered it. Like I said, I cannot be 100% for sure, but maybe since I have posted this, it will jog someone else's memory! I don't use this mousse, so I have no personal experience with it!
Kim
Subject: Mousse question, how long is it ok to sit out?
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 09:54:38 01/21/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
I usually use Marida mousse for my fillings. I have a wedding cake due on the 31st. The cake is a Tres leches cake filled with Maridas mousse. The party starts at 4:00PM and will be held in a hall. How long can it sit out? Does anyone have any other vanilla mousse recipes or fillings that can be unrefrigerated?
Subject: Re: Mousse question, how long is it ok to sit out?
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:08 01/26/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
That's a tough call. Are these cakes refrigerated right up until delivery? If so, they should be fine for 3 or 4 hours...in fact it would likely take that long for them to warm to servinf temperature.
I think as long as they are held under refrigeration to a while before the reception begins, they should be fine.
: I usually use Marida mousse for my fillings. I have a wedding cake due on the 31st. The cake is a Tres leches cake filled with Maridas mousse. The party starts at 4:00PM and will be held in a hall. How long can it sit out? Does anyone have any other vanilla mousse recipes or fillings that can be unrefrigerated?
Subject: Jeff cake and dowel question
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 10:06:28 01/27/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreatcakes@surewest.net
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
I have the Stress Free system but I don't want to use it because I cannot trust that I will get it back even with a deposit so I have to use wooden dowels for this cake. The cake will be a 12 inch cake over a fountain, pillars, 10 inch pillars and 8 inch. Since the cakes are all Tres Leches cakes and will be moist do you think I need to make the largest layer in white since it has flour added and tends to be a little more dense than the chocolate? The lady wanted this layer to be chocolate but since the cakes are moist and this layer is on the bottom tier I am concerned about stability. The white cake is heavier than the chocolate does that make a difference if it is supported over the fountain. Not sure how much weight pillars can support. Do you think I should wait until the day before to soak the cakes or can I soak them now and freeze them? I'm not sure if the will become extra soggy if frozen and thawed. Thank you for all your help. As for the filling dinner is from 4pm to 6 pm and dancing from 6 to 11 pm. Do they usually serve after dinner? Off to start baking some of the 14 layers. I will check back in a couple hours.
: That's a tough call. Are these cakes refrigerated right up until delivery? If so, they should be fine for 3 or 4 hours...in fact it would likely take that long for them to warm to servinf temperature.
I think as long as they are held under refrigeration to a while before the reception begins, they should be fine.
: I usually use Marida mousse for my fillings. I have a wedding cake due on the 31st. The cake is a Tres leches cake filled with Maridas mousse. The party starts at 4:00PM and will be held in a hall. How long can it sit out? Does anyone have any other vanilla mousse recipes or fillings that can be unrefrigerated?
Subject: 3d football helmet cake instructions please
From: christina
To: All
Date Posted: 12:01:35 01/19/09 ()
Email Address: notw2003@gmail.com
Entered From: at 24.211.141.149
Message:
looking for instructions on how to make a 3d football helmet cake. Thank you for any and all help
Subject: email me!
From: Kim D.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:03:25 01/28/09 ()
Email Address: kdunn@woh.rr.com
Entered From: at 24.210.254.97
Message:
If you still need help, email me Christina, and I will forward some instructions to you!
Kim
Subject: Re: 3d football helmet cake instructions please
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 09:50:33 01/21/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
Do you have the 3 d football pan? I purchased mine at Michaels crafts. If you get the Sundays ads they usually have a 40 percent off coupon.
: looking for instructions on how to make a 3d football helmet cake. Thank you for any and all help
Subject: Bettercreme or Frostin Pride
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 02:52:54 01/15/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 65.78.156.245
Message:
When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: Re: Bettercreme or Frostin Pride
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 10:55:38 01/15/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
Color one batch....keep track of the amount of coloring you use....then add that amount to each batch BEFORE whipping....should be close enough.
: When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: Re: Bettercreme or Frostin Pride
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:52 01/15/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
: Color one batch....keep track of the amount of coloring you use....then add that amount to each batch BEFORE whipping....should be close enough.
: When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I
Thanks Jeff.
get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: Re: Bettercreme or Frostin Pride
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:02 01/15/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
I find that using gel colors rather than paste makes it much easier to control the amount added for consistent results.
The smoothing issue....is the problem due to bubbles in the icing? If so, measure out a portion into a small mixing bowl and mix on low with a small hand held mixer with two beaters...this will smooth the texture a great deal.
: : Color one batch....keep track of the amount of coloring you use....then add that amount to each batch BEFORE whipping....should be close enough.
: When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I
Thanks Jeff.
get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: Re: Bettercreme or Frostin Pride
From: Angelas
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:40 01/15/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
I was considering buying the pre whipped icing from Sams Club. Have you ever used this before and can it be colored? I know with the Frostin Pride the more you mix it the stiffer it gets. Wasn't sure about the premade. I know it comes in a large bucket. Havn't use Bettercreme before. Do you think I would have the same problems with stiffness? I really hate working with this stuff. I told the lady that you can't do string work with whipped icing. She must have forgotten because she asked me to bring my books so she can pick out what she wants on the side of the cakes. I just told her that I don't have book anymore. She was the one that lost them. That's the only reason I am taking on this cake to jack up the price so that I can replace them. No more cakes for her after this is done. Thanks for you help Jeff.
: I find that using gel colors rather than paste makes it much easier to control the amount added for consistent results.
The smoothing issue....is the problem due to bubbles in the icing? If so, measure out a portion into a small mixing bowl and mix on low with a small hand held mixer with two beaters...this will smooth the texture a great deal.
: : Color one batch....keep track of the amount of coloring you use....then add that amount to each batch BEFORE whipping....should be close enough.
: When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I
Thanks Jeff.
get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: FYI
From: Dolores
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Date Posted: 08:48:17 01/24/09 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
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As I understand it, Bettercream and Frosting Pride are almost if not the very same. Frosting Pride is avail. out west and Bettercream towards the east.
Don't know about prewhipped. Never saw it
Dolores
Subject: Re: Bettercreme or Frostin Pride
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:26 01/15/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
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I've never tried the Sam's icing before, but I think you'll experience the same issue as with any whipped icing [if it is a whipped icing in the first place]. These icings do not readily accept water-based additives....you might have better luck with an oil based color, such as those used for chocolate....I'm sure Delores sells them as well.
This would definitely be my last cake for this lady!
: I was considering buying the pre whipped icing from Sams Club. Have you ever used this before and can it be colored? I know with the Frostin Pride the more you mix it the stiffer it gets. Wasn't sure about the premade. I know it comes in a large bucket. Havn't use Bettercreme before. Do you think I would have the same problems with stiffness? I really hate working with this stuff. I told the lady that you can't do string work with whipped icing. She must have forgotten because she asked me to bring my books so she can pick out what she wants on the side of the cakes. I just told her that I don't have book anymore. She was the one that lost them. That's the only reason I am taking on this cake to jack up the price so that I can replace them. No more cakes for her after this is done. Thanks for you help Jeff.
: I find that using gel colors rather than paste makes it much easier to control the amount added for consistent results.
The smoothing issue....is the problem due to bubbles in the icing? If so, measure out a portion into a small mixing bowl and mix on low with a small hand held mixer with two beaters...this will smooth the texture a great deal.
: : Color one batch....keep track of the amount of coloring you use....then add that amount to each batch BEFORE whipping....should be close enough.
: When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I
Thanks Jeff.
get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: Jeff question for you
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 21:40:51 01/25/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@surewest.net
Entered From: at 65.78.156.245
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I went to Sam's club today and I was afraid of buying the pre whipped in a bucket because of trying to add color. The stuff gets stiff quick. I bought the liquid form that needs to be whipped. Do you think I could empty all of them in one large container and stir in color and just whip in small batches? I just want to make sure that they are all the same color. Everyone is out of the Royal blue in the squeeze bottle so I only have the paste. TIA
: I've never tried the Sam's icing before, but I think you'll experience the same issue as with any whipped icing [if it is a whipped icing in the first place]. These icings do not readily accept water-based additives....you might have better luck with an oil based color, such as those used for chocolate....I'm sure Delores sells them as well.
This would definitely be my last cake for this lady!
: I was considering buying the pre whipped icing from Sams Club. Have you ever used this before and can it be colored? I know with the Frostin Pride the more you mix it the stiffer it gets. Wasn't sure about the premade. I know it comes in a large bucket. Havn't use Bettercreme before. Do you think I would have the same problems with stiffness? I really hate working with this stuff. I told the lady that you can't do string work with whipped icing. She must have forgotten because she asked me to bring my books so she can pick out what she wants on the side of the cakes. I just told her that I don't have book anymore. She was the one that lost them. That's the only reason I am taking on this cake to jack up the price so that I can replace them. No more cakes for her after this is done. Thanks for you help Jeff.
: I find that using gel colors rather than paste makes it much easier to control the amount added for consistent results.
The smoothing issue....is the problem due to bubbles in the icing? If so, measure out a portion into a small mixing bowl and mix on low with a small hand held mixer with two beaters...this will smooth the texture a great deal.
: : Color one batch....keep track of the amount of coloring you use....then add that amount to each batch BEFORE whipping....should be close enough.
: When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I
Thanks Jeff.
get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: Re: Jeff question for you
From: Jeff
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Date Posted: 11:54:52 01/26/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
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That might be the best idea....color all the liquid at once....should give pretty consistent color when the batches are whipped up.
: I went to Sam's club today and I was afraid of buying the pre whipped in a bucket because of trying to add color. The stuff gets stiff quick. I bought the liquid form that needs to be whipped. Do you think I could empty all of them in one large container and stir in color and just whip in small batches? I just want to make sure that they are all the same color. Everyone is out of the Royal blue in the squeeze bottle so I only have the paste. TIA
: I've never tried the Sam's icing before, but I think you'll experience the same issue as with any whipped icing [if it is a whipped icing in the first place]. These icings do not readily accept water-based additives....you might have better luck with an oil based color, such as those used for chocolate....I'm sure Delores sells them as well.
This would definitely be my last cake for this lady!
: I was considering buying the pre whipped icing from Sams Club. Have you ever used this before and can it be colored? I know with the Frostin Pride the more you mix it the stiffer it gets. Wasn't sure about the premade. I know it comes in a large bucket. Havn't use Bettercreme before. Do you think I would have the same problems with stiffness? I really hate working with this stuff. I told the lady that you can't do string work with whipped icing. She must have forgotten because she asked me to bring my books so she can pick out what she wants on the side of the cakes. I just told her that I don't have book anymore. She was the one that lost them. That's the only reason I am taking on this cake to jack up the price so that I can replace them. No more cakes for her after this is done. Thanks for you help Jeff.
: I find that using gel colors rather than paste makes it much easier to control the amount added for consistent results.
The smoothing issue....is the problem due to bubbles in the icing? If so, measure out a portion into a small mixing bowl and mix on low with a small hand held mixer with two beaters...this will smooth the texture a great deal.
: : Color one batch....keep track of the amount of coloring you use....then add that amount to each batch BEFORE whipping....should be close enough.
: When using whipped icing I find it hard to get the icing perfectly smooth is there a trick someone can share? Also the cake that I have to make is 7 cakes that has to be frosted in this stuff(light blue) the more you use it the stiffer the icing gets. How can I
Thanks Jeff.
get the color of each batch to match since I won't be able to whip them all at once. Figured I need 6 to 7 quarts of whipped icing. Tried to talk her out of using whipped icing but she doesn't like sweet icings. I hate working with it.
Subject: Question about doll picks
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 02:49:06 01/15/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
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I need to make a small doll cake to put on the top tier of a three tiered cake. The only ethnic doll pick I can find is for a full sized doll cake. Would it look odd to down size the doll cake a little using the standard pick or will the size really stand out. I was planning on using rice crispies for the base instead of cake and cover in a fondant dress. What do you normally charge for your cakes> This cake will be three tiers above a fountain and two pillared cakes on each side of the main cake. The main cake is 12,10,8 and the side cakes will be 10 and 8. I told the lady 305.00 for buttercream and 325.00 for whipped icing and she would have to pay for the fountain rental. The cakes are Tres leches cakes and I don't like working with them but this is all their family will eat. She seemed like it was a little pricey but I think it's reasonable and besides she borrowed my cake books and didn't give them back. Said that she had already returned them. I charged extra so I can replace them. TIA.
Subject: What is a good width for a ribbon and bow on a sheetcake?
From: Angela
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Date Posted: 10:31:16 01/05/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
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I have to make a 12x18 sheet cake and the lady wants a present cake. She wants a long ribbon acrossed the middle and one going down set off at the side with a simple bow. What is a good width for this size cake? I havn't made a present cake before. TIA.
Subject: Re: What is a good width for a ribbon and bow on a sheetcake?
From: DSeniseNH
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Date Posted: 10:58:44 01/05/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
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I should think that with a cake that size a two inch ribbon would be good.
: I have to make a 12x18 sheet cake and the lady wants a present cake. She wants a long ribbon acrossed the middle and one going down set off at the side with a simple bow. What is a good width for this size cake? I havn't made a present cake before. TIA.
Subject: Re: What is a good width for a ribbon and bow on a sheetcake
From: Angela
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Date Posted: 02:21:52 01/07/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
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I'm sorry the pan is actually 18x21. Do you still think I should stick with a two inch ribbon and bow
: I should think that with a cake that size a two inch ribbon would be good.
: I have to make a 12x18 sheet cake and the lady wants a present cake. She wants a long ribbon acrossed the middle and one going down set off at the side with a simple bow. What is a good width for this size cake? I havn't made a present cake before. TIA.
Subject: Re: What is a good width for a ribbon and bow on a sheetcake
From: DeniseNH
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Date Posted: 07:16:29 01/07/09 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
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I think that this is one of those "personal preference" questions. I would take a couple pieces of paper and tape them together to form an 18 X 21 rectangle then take a ruler and draw on a two inch ribbon - step back and look at it, if it appears to be too small - hike it up to 2-1/2 then 3 until you get the right proportions. Packages come tied with all sized ribbons - based on the personal preference of the giver. If you have other items on the cake; then the ribbon can be less wide. If the ribbon is the center of attention and is nice and fluffy (dried gumpaste or fondant bow loops) then it can be wider. Tough question to answer really.
: I'm sorry the pan is actually 18x21. Do you still think I should stick with a two inch ribbon and bow
: I should think that with a cake that size a two inch ribbon would be good.
: I have to make a 12x18 sheet cake and the lady wants a present cake. She wants a long ribbon acrossed the middle and one going down set off at the side with a simple bow. What is a good width for this size cake? I havn't made a present cake before. TIA.
Subject: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 02:03:36 01/02/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
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I have a question for you wedding cake guru's. I usually use the stress free system or plates, dowels and pillars. The picture that the lady gave me is a three tier cake with pillars between each tier on top of a plate with a fountain below. I have never made a cake displayed that high before. Kind of scares me when I think about it. Well the tiers are sitting on cardboard cake circles covered in foil which rest on top of the pillars. Has anyone done this and should I be worried if I try it? The lady wants to save money and not purchase the Wilton plates. The pillars almost look like the disposable pillars. Has anyone used this type of pillar on a three tier cake? Sorry I know I said one question but I know you can answer them all. Last can anyone tell me if whipped icing like Frostin Pride can be colored to Royal Blue?
Subject: Re: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 22:28:48 01/03/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
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If money is that tight...I'd probably pass on this one. I would never compromise structural integrity for the sake of a few dollars.....after all, if the cake collapses, its YOUR name attached to it!
: I have a question for you wedding cake guru's. I usually use the stress free system or plates, dowels and pillars. The picture that the lady gave me is a three tier cake with pillars between each tier on top of a plate with a fountain below. I have never made a cake displayed that high before. Kind of scares me when I think about it. Well the tiers are sitting on cardboard cake circles covered in foil which rest on top of the pillars. Has anyone done this and should I be worried if I try it? The lady wants to save money and not purchase the Wilton plates. The pillars almost look like the disposable pillars. Has anyone used this type of pillar on a three tier cake? Sorry I know I said one question but I know you can answer them all. Last can anyone tell me if whipped icing like Frostin Pride can be colored to Royal Blue?
Subject: Re: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 02:13:47 01/04/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 65.78.156.245
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It's for a lady at work and I keep trying to get her to hire someone else but she won't take no for an answer. Before I left for Hawaii I let her borrow almost all of my cake books so that her sister could pick out a cake. When I asked for them back the other day she told me that she had already returned them so I lost my cake decorating book collection. The only reason I was thinking about making the cake is so I could add on the amount to replace my books. I will never let anyone take my property home again. Its sad when one person has to ruin it for everyone else. Thanks for the advice.
: I have a question for you wedding cake guru's. I usually use the stress free system or plates, dowels and pillars. The picture that the lady gave me is a three tier cake with pillars between each tier on top of a plate with a fountain below. I have never made a cake displayed that high before. Kind of scares me when I think about it. Well the tiers are sitting on cardboard cake circles covered in foil which rest on top of the pillars. Has anyone done this and should I be worried if I try it? The lady wants to save money and not purchase the Wilton plates. The pillars almost look like the disposable pillars. Has anyone used this type of pillar on a three tier cake? Sorry I know I said one question but I know you can answer them all. Last can anyone tell me if whipped icing like Frostin Pride can be colored to Royal Blue?
Subject: Re: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 08:39:35 01/04/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
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IF i loan a book, and rarely do....in fact I rarely use any books other than current bridal magazines, I have a 'library card' inside that the person signs when they check out and are told to ask for the card when they return them so they can initial they have returned them....I've not lost any books this way!
I agree with Carolyn....if she doesn't want to invest in plates and pillars, offer to do a stacked cake....but I WOULD NEVER attempt to use just cardboard circles and pillars to support a tiered cake...that is a disaster in the making. In the picture you saw, look closely...sometime people use pillars and smaller diameter plates than the cake above, then set the cake on a foil board that's larger than the cake....you don't see the plate that way and you can turn the cake on the pillars to make sure all is aligned. If you use the bakery craft brand separators Delores sells, they have a little plastic pin in the center of the plate that you use to punch a tiny hole in the cardboard circle before placing the cak on it....then when you set the cake in place, the pin centers the board and helps hold it in place.
: It's for a lady at work and I keep trying to get her to hire someone else but she won't take no for an answer. Before I left for Hawaii I let her borrow almost all of my cake books so that her sister could pick out a cake. When I asked for them back the other day she told me that she had already returned them so I lost my cake decorating book collection. The only reason I was thinking about making the cake is so I could add on the amount to replace my books. I will never let anyone take my property home again. Its sad when one person has to ruin it for everyone else. Thanks for the advice.
: I have a question for you wedding cake guru's. I usually use the stress free system or plates, dowels and pillars. The picture that the lady gave me is a three tier cake with pillars between each tier on top of a plate with a fountain below. I have never made a cake displayed that high before. Kind of scares me when I think about it. Well the tiers are sitting on cardboard cake circles covered in foil which rest on top of the pillars. Has anyone done this and should I be worried if I try it? The lady wants to save money and not purchase the Wilton plates. The pillars almost look like the disposable pillars. Has anyone used this type of pillar on a three tier cake? Sorry I know I said one question but I know you can answer them all. Last can anyone tell me if whipped icing like Frostin Pride can be colored to Royal Blue?
Subject: Re: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 05:47:01 01/04/09 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
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I'd use the stress free if you have it. Just tell her what items you have and what you will do if she isn't willing to purchase what you need or you can't. I know these items are costly, but the Wilton plates are what you will use many times over if you do many cakes and I figure that is part of the cost of doing cakes. If she didn't return my books, I'd definitely get a deposit on my equipment so it is returned! I always do on the "stress free" because it's very expensive, but worth the money! I would not use the cardboards just covered on top of the pillars without the plates - won't work.
I haven't had experience with the Frosting Pride or any of the others to know about the coloring abilities of it. Dark blue will look black in the pictures though.
Subject: Re: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 15:44:24 01/04/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 65.78.156.245
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She want the cakes to be iced in light blue with dark blue borders. I really don't think it will look good myself. She also asked me if I could do a doll cake for the top but she wants it stacked on top of the top tier. The pictures shows allot of fresh flowers but they just want stars. The cake needs to fee 150 people. The main cake has three cakes over the fountain with pillars between each tier. On each side is looks like two eight inch cakes with pillars and stairs going from the middle tier down to the side cakes. Hope this makes since. Another reason I really don't want to do the cake is she wants all Tres Leches cakes some white and some chocolate. I don't know if you have made them before but after baking the cake you have to soak them in three milks and let the sit. Really messy to try and decorate and cost more for the supplies. Thank you for all of your help.
: I'd use the stress free if you have it. Just tell her what items you have and what you will do if she isn't willing to purchase what you need or you can't. I know these items are costly, but the Wilton plates are what you will use many times over if you do many cakes and I figure that is part of the cost of doing cakes. If she didn't return my books, I'd definitely get a deposit on my equipment so it is returned! I always do on the "stress free" because it's very expensive, but worth the money! I would not use the cardboards just covered on top of the pillars without the plates - won't work.
I haven't had experience with the Frosting Pride or any of the others to know about the coloring abilities of it. Dark blue will look black in the pictures though.
Subject: Re: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 21:43:19 01/04/09 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
The more detail you give on this cake, the more sure I become that I WOULD NOT attempt it! Too many things that could go wrong here. Funny...she's willing to pay for all that cake, then skimp on the $20 or so that proper separator plates would cost to avoid a disaster....send her to Wal-Mart! You don't owe this lady anything...afterall, she has already stolen your books [if she said she returned them and she didn't, she stole them...harsh but true!]....dont back down...just say you are not comfortable with this cake and will not be able to do it....it's going to be nothing but a headache!
: She want the cakes to be iced in light blue with dark blue borders. I really don't think it will look good myself. She also asked me if I could do a doll cake for the top but she wants it stacked on top of the top tier. The pictures shows allot of fresh flowers but they just want stars. The cake needs to fee 150 people. The main cake has three cakes over the fountain with pillars between each tier. On each side is looks like two eight inch cakes with pillars and stairs going from the middle tier down to the side cakes. Hope this makes since. Another reason I really don't want to do the cake is she wants all Tres Leches cakes some white and some chocolate. I don't know if you have made them before but after baking the cake you have to soak them in three milks and let the sit. Really messy to try and decorate and cost more for the supplies. Thank you for all of your help.
: I'd use the stress free if you have it. Just tell her what items you have and what you will do if she isn't willing to purchase what you need or you can't. I know these items are costly, but the Wilton plates are what you will use many times over if you do many cakes and I figure that is part of the cost of doing cakes. If she didn't return my books, I'd definitely get a deposit on my equipment so it is returned! I always do on the "stress free" because it's very expensive, but worth the money! I would not use the cardboards just covered on top of the pillars without the plates - won't work.
I haven't had experience with the Frosting Pride or any of the others to know about the coloring abilities of it. Dark blue will look black in the pictures though.
Subject: Re: Cakes, pillars, cardboard circles
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:34 01/04/09 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 65.78.156.245
Message:
: She want the cakes to be iced in light blue with dark blue borders. I really don't think it will look good myself. She also asked me if I could do a doll cake for the top but she wants it stacked on top of the top tier. The pictures shows allot of fresh flowers but they just want stars. The cake needs to fee 150 people.
The picture she gave me looks like something her sister clipped out of a barbie magazine. The cake is probably fake thats why it's not on separator plates. There is a barbie cake in front of the main cake.
The main cake has three cakes over the fountain with pillars between each tier. On each side is looks like two eight inch cakes with pillars and stairs going from the middle tier down to the side cakes. Hope this makes since. Another reason I really don't want to do the cake is she wants all Tres Leches cakes some white and some chocolate. I don't know if you have made them before but after baking the cake you have to soak them in three milks and let the sit. Really messy to try and decorate and cost more for the supplies. Thank you for all of your help.
: I'd use the stress free if you have it. Just tell her what items you have and what you will do if she isn't willing to purchase what you need or you can't. I know these items are costly, but the Wilton plates are what you will use many times over if you do many cakes and I figure that is part of the cost of doing cakes. If she didn't return my books, I'd definitely get a deposit on my equipment so it is returned! I always do on the "stress free" because it's very expensive, but worth the money! I would not use the cardboards just covered on top of the pillars without the plates - won't work.
I haven't had experience with the Frosting Pride or any of the others to know about the coloring abilities of it. Dark blue will look black in the pictures though.
Subject: Edible Glitter on Gumpaste.
From: Jan P
To: All
Date Posted: 13:19:56 12/15/08 ()
Email Address: janet1@tds.net
Entered From: at 75.51.122.20
Message:
I need to make gumpaste snowflakes for a wedding cake and need to put edible glitter on them. How do I put the edible glitter on so it will stick?
All help and advice will be appreciated.
Subject: Re: Edible Glitter on Gumpaste.
From: Mary K
To: All
Date Posted: 20:42:51 12/16/08 ()
Email Address: jnkfree@frontiernet.net
Entered From: at 74.36.49.82
Message:
If you have an air brush you can lightly mist the snowflakes,and sprinkle the glitter on them, you could use any thing that will give you a very fine spray. like a perfume atomizer. Sorry to be so little help.
: I need to make gumpaste snowflakes for a wedding cake and need to put edible glitter on them. How do I put the edible glitter on so it will stick?
All help and advice will be appreciated.
Subject: Re: Edible Glitter on Gumpaste.
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 03:26:29 12/18/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 66.222.105.35
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If you don't own an air brush, just place a few dry flakes onto the surface of a splatter screen, the type used to prevent bacon grease from jumping out of your frying pan, and hold over a steaming kettle of water for two seconds. This will slightly moisten the front and backs of each flake, making a sticky surface for the glitter to stick to. - or create a wire with a fishhook end and dangle each flake over hot water then place on waxed paper and sprinkle with glitter.
If you have an air brush you can lightly mist the snowflakes,and sprinkle the glitter on them, you could use any thing that will give you a very fine spray. like a perfume atomizer. Sorry to be so little help.
: I need to make gumpaste snowflakes for a wedding cake and need to put edible glitter on them. How do I put the edible glitter on so it will stick?
All help and advice will be appreciated.
Subject: Out of hi ratio, please help!
From: Veronica
To: All
Date Posted: 22:12:50 12/08/08 ()
Email Address: vboren@bellsouth.net
Entered From: at 70.153.163.249
Message:
I thought I had another container of hi ratio shortening, but just discovered I don't. I have cakes this weekend and no time to get more shortening here. Any suggestions for a crusting buttercream using ingredients available at the grocery store?
Subject: Re: Out of hi ratio, please help!
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 23:32:41 12/08/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.181
Message:
Get a store brand all-vegetable shortening that has transfats in it. That's what I use all the time now that Crisco has ruined their product. If you have a WalMart near you, their store brand works fine. If not, check out other stores' private brands.
: I thought I had another container of hi ratio shortening, but just discovered I don't. I have cakes this weekend and no time to get more shortening here. Any suggestions for a crusting buttercream using ingredients available at the grocery store?
Subject: Re: Out of hi ratio, please help!
From: Veronica
To: All
Date Posted: 06:37:31 12/09/08 ()
Email Address: vboren@bellsouth.net
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Message:
Thanks for your response. Do I need to adjust my shortening to sugar ratio? I currently use equal parts - 5 cups shortening to 5 lbs. sugar and 1 cup total liquid.
: Get a store brand all-vegetable shortening that has transfats in it. That's what I use all the time now that Crisco has ruined their product. If you have a WalMart near you, their store brand works fine. If not, check out other stores' private brands.
: I thought I had another container of hi ratio shortening, but just discovered I don't. I have cakes this weekend and no time to get more shortening here. Any suggestions for a crusting buttercream using ingredients available at the grocery store?
Subject: Re: Out of hi ratio, please help!
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 09:25:41 12/09/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 67.130.185.64
Message:
Your recipe is different than mine. I use a combination of real butter and shortening. The proportions are 3 1/2 c butter/shortening mixture to 7 lb. powdered sugar and 1 3/4 c water. I don't know if you would need to make adjustments to your recipe if you change from hi ratio to the transfat shortening. Sorry I can't be of more help.
: Thanks for your response. Do I need to adjust my shortening to sugar ratio? I currently use equal parts - 5 cups shortening to 5 lbs. sugar and 1 cup total liquid.
: Get a store brand all-vegetable shortening that has transfats in it. That's what I use all the time now that Crisco has ruined their product. If you have a WalMart near you, their store brand works fine. If not, check out other stores' private brands.
: I thought I had another container of hi ratio shortening, but just discovered I don't. I have cakes this weekend and no time to get more shortening here. Any suggestions for a crusting buttercream using ingredients available at the grocery store?
Subject: fondant cracking
From: jennifersc
To: All
Date Posted: 07:23:47 12/06/08 ()
Email Address: jenniferscakes@msn.com
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I have a problem with my Satin Ice fondant I've never encountered before. We were out of the pre-colored red, so I made red out of white in my mixer, as usual. It was really dry, so we added some (Not much) icing to it. Well now it isn't elastic AT ALL. I mean it tears like sugar cookie dough. Any ideas why and how can I fix it? My poor assistant was in tears of frustration yesterday over a firetruck. Life is too short for that!!! Thanks, Jennifer
Subject: Re: fondant cracking
From: DeniseNH
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Date Posted: 16:48:18 12/06/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.101.15
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Did you add some Crisco to it and roll it out on PAM instead of confec. sugar or cornstarch?
: I have a problem with my Satin Ice fondant I've never encountered before. We were out of the pre-colored red, so I made red out of white in my mixer, as usual. It was really dry, so we added some (Not much) icing to it. Well now it isn't elastic AT ALL. I mean it tears like sugar cookie dough. Any ideas why and how can I fix it? My poor assistant was in tears of frustration yesterday over a firetruck. Life is too short for that!!! Thanks, Jennifer
Subject: pumpkin roll cracking
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 02:13:33 11/20/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 67.130.184.18
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I have used the same pumpkin roll recipe for years and used to have no problems with it, but for the past few years, every time I've made on the cake part cracks when I roll it up. I don't over bake it, and the cake is moist and pliable, but it still cracks every time. I bake it and remove it from the pan while still warm and roll it in a towel until cool. Then when I unroll it to spread the filling on, it starts to crack. What can I do to prevent this from happening?
Subject: How big for 75 ppl
From: Janice S.
To: All
Date Posted: 15:04:27 11/19/08 ()
Email Address: jspofford@charter.net
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I am make a 2 tier cake for a party. What size should each tier be for 75? 14 in and 10in or 12 in and 8 in?
Subject: Re: How big for 75 ppl
From: DeniseNH
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Date Posted: 18:57:45 11/20/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.101.15
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By my calculations a 12 and an 8 will give you 70 generous servings so I'd go with that. The 14 & 10 gives you 108.
: I am make a 2 tier cake for a party. What size should each tier be for 75? 14 in and 10in or 12 in and 8 in?
Subject: Cakes without eggs??
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:12 11/10/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
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Is it possible to do a cake mix without eggs? I have a request for 2 cakes for Thursday and she says the cakes can't have eggs in them. I guess I will just experiment and see what happens. Thanks for any help you can give me.
Subject: Re: Cakes without eggs??
From: Mary K
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Date Posted: 11:17:58 11/11/08 ()
Email Address: jnkfree@frontiernet.net
Entered From: at 70.100.85.50
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Carolyn, if you google eggless cakes, you will find a lot of information, and some recipes for them, most if not all vegan recipes will probably not contain eggs. Allrecipes has an eggless cake recipte I believe. HTH
: Is it possible to do a cake mix without eggs? I have a request for 2 cakes for Thursday and she says the cakes can't have eggs in them. I guess I will just experiment and see what happens. Thanks for any help you can give me.
Subject: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 17:02:54 11/01/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Jan P
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Date Posted: 13:26:56 12/15/08 ()
Email Address: janet1@tds.net
Entered From: at 75.51.122.20
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: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
I always use Duncan Hines and follow the large cake recipe inside the box. I keep the water and eggs the same and change the oil amount.
If cake mix calls for
1/2 c oil..........use 1/3 c oil
1/3 c oil..........use 1/4 c oil
1/4 c oil..........use 2 T
I always use 2 T for white.
I also freeze my cakes at least overnight.
I always get great comments on my cakes and how moist they are.
Good luck!
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: anna n
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Date Posted: 21:13:09 11/01/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 67.130.184.5
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Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: DeniseNH
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Date Posted: 22:08:29 11/01/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.101.15
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Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 11:32:51 11/02/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
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I bake my cakes at 325 and have never had any complaints. They usually ask me how I get my cakes to stay moist. I don't know if it's because she is used to eating soggy cakes. The only cakes her husband will eat are Tres Leches cakes. I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Jeff
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Date Posted: 11:07:34 11/05/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 170.185.149.19
Message:
Hmm....a well baked boxed mix cake is rarely dry. I'd ask her where she has bought cakes in the past that were satisfactory to have a point of comparison.
: I bake my cakes at 325 and have never had any complaints. They usually ask me how I get my cakes to stay moist. I don't know if it's because she is used to eating soggy cakes. The only cakes her husband will eat are Tres Leches cakes. I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 20:34:37 11/02/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would not think not freezing would make it dry unless you didn't use it for several days. I, too, usually always freeze my cakes. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes and underbake them. I don't use any extra stuff in mine and always am told how good and moist they are. Those tres (whatever the name is) are way too soggy for my taste.
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 09:57:57 11/04/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
I also use Betty Crocker and have always been asked how I make the cake so moist. I just think that they are used to soggy cakes. I don't really care for Tres Leches cakes either. However I do make a chocolate Tres Leches which is really good. I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge mix whipping cream, evaporated milk and coconut milk. I top with Maridas vanilla mousse. I only use half of the milk mixture which makes it moist but not soggy. I bought some buttermilk as suggested and I was wondering do I use all buttermilk or part water?
: I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would not think not freezing would make it dry unless you didn't use it for several days. I, too, usually always freeze my cakes. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes and underbake them. I don't use any extra stuff in mine and always am told how good and moist they are. Those tres (whatever the name is) are way too soggy for my taste.
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 12:30:43 11/04/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.185
Message:
In answer to your buttermilk question: The mix I use calls for 1 1/3 cups water. I use 1 cup water and 1/3 cup buttermilk and bake at 300 degrees. If you use all buttermilk, the cake tends to be too wet. I constantly get comments about how moist my cakes are.
: I also use Betty Crocker and have always been asked how I make the cake so moist. I just think that they are used to soggy cakes. I don't really care for Tres Leches cakes either. However I do make a chocolate Tres Leches which is really good. I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge mix whipping cream, evaporated milk and coconut milk. I top with Maridas vanilla mousse. I only use half of the milk mixture which makes it moist but not soggy. I bought some buttermilk as suggested and I was wondering do I use all buttermilk or part water?
: I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would not think not freezing would make it dry unless you didn't use it for several days. I, too, usually always freeze my cakes. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes and underbake them. I don't use any extra stuff in mine and always am told how good and moist they are. Those tres (whatever the name is) are way too soggy for my taste.
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 02:01:24 11/05/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
At 300 how long do you bake? Is the same time or do you just have to watch and wait? I bought some butter milk so I want to give it a try.
: In answer to your buttermilk question: The mix I use calls for 1 1/3 cups water. I use 1 cup water and 1/3 cup buttermilk and bake at 300 degrees. If you use all buttermilk, the cake tends to be too wet. I constantly get comments about how moist my cakes are.
: I also use Betty Crocker and have always been asked how I make the cake so moist. I just think that they are used to soggy cakes. I don't really care for Tres Leches cakes either. However I do make a chocolate Tres Leches which is really good. I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge mix whipping cream, evaporated milk and coconut milk. I top with Maridas vanilla mousse. I only use half of the milk mixture which makes it moist but not soggy. I bought some buttermilk as suggested and I was wondering do I use all buttermilk or part water?
: I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would not think not freezing would make it dry unless you didn't use it for several days. I, too, usually always freeze my cakes. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes and underbake them. I don't use any extra stuff in mine and always am told how good and moist they are. Those tres (whatever the name is) are way too soggy for my taste.
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 08:13:26 11/05/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.188
Message:
When baking at 300, I set the timer for 40 minutes. This is usually right for a 9x12 sheet cake or 8, 9 or 10" round cakes. For larger cakes, I usually have to add a little more time. I always check them at 40 minutes, though because I don't want them overcooked, and it's better to have to add a few more minutes than to deal with an overcooked cake.
: At 300 how long do you bake? Is the same time or do you just have to watch and wait? I bought some butter milk so I want to give it a try.
: In answer to your buttermilk question: The mix I use calls for 1 1/3 cups water. I use 1 cup water and 1/3 cup buttermilk and bake at 300 degrees. If you use all buttermilk, the cake tends to be too wet. I constantly get comments about how moist my cakes are.
: I also use Betty Crocker and have always been asked how I make the cake so moist. I just think that they are used to soggy cakes. I don't really care for Tres Leches cakes either. However I do make a chocolate Tres Leches which is really good. I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge mix whipping cream, evaporated milk and coconut milk. I top with Maridas vanilla mousse. I only use half of the milk mixture which makes it moist but not soggy. I bought some buttermilk as suggested and I was wondering do I use all buttermilk or part water?
: I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would not think not freezing would make it dry unless you didn't use it for several days. I, too, usually always freeze my cakes. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes and underbake them. I don't use any extra stuff in mine and always am told how good and moist they are. Those tres (whatever the name is) are way too soggy for my taste.
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Thank you I will give it a try.
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 10:55:07 11/05/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
: When baking at 300, I set the timer for 40 minutes. This is usually right for a 9x12 sheet cake or 8, 9 or 10" round cakes. For larger cakes, I usually have to add a little more time. I always check them at 40 minutes, though because I don't want them overcooked, and it's better to have to add a few more minutes than to deal with an overcooked cake.
: At 300 how long do you bake? Is the same time or do you just have to watch and wait? I bought some butter milk so I want to give it a try.
: In answer to your buttermilk question: The mix I use calls for 1 1/3 cups water. I use 1 cup water and 1/3 cup buttermilk and bake at 300 degrees. If you use all buttermilk, the cake tends to be too wet. I constantly get comments about how moist my cakes are.
: I also use Betty Crocker and have always been asked how I make the cake so moist. I just think that they are used to soggy cakes. I don't really care for Tres Leches cakes either. However I do make a chocolate Tres Leches which is really good. I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge mix whipping cream, evaporated milk and coconut milk. I top with Maridas vanilla mousse. I only use half of the milk mixture which makes it moist but not soggy. I bought some buttermilk as suggested and I was wondering do I use all buttermilk or part water?
: I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would not think not freezing would make it dry unless you didn't use it for several days. I, too, usually always freeze my cakes. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes and underbake them. I don't use any extra stuff in mine and always am told how good and moist they are. Those tres (whatever the name is) are way too soggy for my taste.
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Carolyn-Iowa
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:34 11/04/08 ()
Email Address: roddencaro@msn.com
Entered From: at 75.167.86.212
Message:
: In answer to your buttermilk question: The mix I use calls for 1 1/3 cups water. I use 1 cup water and 1/3 cup buttermilk and bake at 300 degrees. If you use all buttermilk, the cake tends to be too wet. I constantly get comments about how moist my cakes are.
: I also use Betty Crocker and have always been asked how I make the cake so moist. I just think that they are used to soggy cakes. I don't really care for Tres Leches cakes either. However I do make a chocolate Tres Leches which is really good. I use Betty Crocker chocolate fudge mix whipping cream, evaporated milk and coconut milk. I top with Maridas vanilla mousse. I only use half of the milk mixture which makes it moist but not soggy. I bought some buttermilk as suggested and I was wondering do I use all buttermilk or part water?
Could you use part Buttermilk & the rest milk instead of water?
: I usually bake and freeze my cakes but I didn't do that this time. Could not freezing the cakes make them more dry?>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would not think not freezing would make it dry unless you didn't use it for several days. I, too, usually always freeze my cakes. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes and underbake them. I don't use any extra stuff in mine and always am told how good and moist they are. Those tres (whatever the name is) are way too soggy for my taste.
: Or add a package of instant pudding to your mix, along with a little more water and don't over-bake it.
: Substitute 1/3 cup buttermilk for 1/3 of the water called for in the mix. Your cakes will be very tender and moist and have a wonderful flavor.
: How can I make cake mixes more moist? Lady at work insists cake mixes are to dry.
Subject: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:49 11/01/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@surewest.net
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
I have a lady that insists cake mixes are not moist enough. Does anyone have any suggestions on make it a little more moist?
Subject: Re: How to make cakes more moist.
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 10:31:07 01/28/09 ()
Email Address: proicer@nuvox.net
Entered From: at 216.215.128.14
Message:
Other than a good recipe, the most important thing is NOT to overbake. Nothing dries a cake out worse than over baking. With most cakes you can press your finger lightly on the top center. If the cake BARELY springs back up it is done. I don't know why people ever make a cake from scratch anymore. With great box mixes and book "The cake doctor" there is not much need. Mixes are so reliable. Dolores
: I have a lady that insists cake mixes are not moist enough. Does anyone have any suggestions on make it a little more moist?
Subject: Tilted Cakes
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 20:25:20 10/16/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 67.159.44.138
Message:
Have any of you done the buttercream icedm, tilted cakes like Ron Ben Israel and Sylvia Weinstock....not the ones where you carve holes in the tier below and cut the cakes at angles, but the ones where the cake boards sit at angles on wedges of styrofoam and the spaces between are filled with flowers.
What keeps the cakes from sliding off their base boards? Anyone done these? What's the secret?
Subject: Re: Tilted Cakes
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 09:27:31 10/20/08 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.197.7
Message:
Let me see if I can get this picture from my head to make sense. I'm going to do one and use wedges between the tiers and opposite wedges under the cake so each cake will actually be sitting flat on a wedge that's firmly attached to the board. The cakes will have to be carved to make them look like they're sitting tilted but I'll have peace of mind knowing they are flat and level and won't end up on funniest home videos or cake wrecks ;o}
: Have any of you done the buttercream icedm, tilted cakes like Ron Ben Israel and Sylvia Weinstock....not the ones where you carve holes in the tier below and cut the cakes at angles, but the ones where the cake boards sit at angles on wedges of styrofoam and the spaces between are filled with flowers.
What keeps the cakes from sliding off their base boards? Anyone done these? What's the secret?
Subject: Re: Tilted Cakes
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:56 10/17/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 67.130.184.71
Message:
They showed one of these on Fabulous Wedding Cakes last week. It had the styrofoam wedges between cake tiers, and they put a thick wooden stake through all of it to keep it together. They started out trying to hammer the stake through the cake, but it was causing the icing (fondant) on some of the tiers to crush down, so they took it apart and made holes through each cake tier and wedge and threaded them onto the stake. It made me nervous to watch it. After it was all attached together, they covered the wedges with piped buttercream and then put decorations on to hide the wedges.
: Have any of you done the buttercream icedm, tilted cakes like Ron Ben Israel and Sylvia Weinstock....not the ones where you carve holes in the tier below and cut the cakes at angles, but the ones where the cake boards sit at angles on wedges of styrofoam and the spaces between are filled with flowers.
What keeps the cakes from sliding off their base boards? Anyone done these? What's the secret?
Subject: Re: Tilted Cakes
From: Natalie
To: All
Date Posted: 22:04:21 11/03/08 ()
Email Address: nrjcake@verizon.net
Entered From: at 98.113.157.73
Message:
What channel is Fabulous wedding cakes on? I've never seen it.
: They showed one of these on Fabulous Wedding Cakes last week. It had the styrofoam wedges between cake tiers, and they put a thick wooden stake through all of it to keep it together. They started out trying to hammer the stake through the cake, but it was causing the icing (fondant) on some of the tiers to crush down, so they took it apart and made holes through each cake tier and wedge and threaded them onto the stake. It made me nervous to watch it. After it was all attached together, they covered the wedges with piped buttercream and then put decorations on to hide the wedges.
: Have any of you done the buttercream icedm, tilted cakes like Ron Ben Israel and Sylvia Weinstock....not the ones where you carve holes in the tier below and cut the cakes at angles, but the ones where the cake boards sit at angles on wedges of styrofoam and the spaces between are filled with flowers.
What keeps the cakes from sliding off their base boards? Anyone done these? What's the secret?
Subject: Re: Tilted Cakes
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 16:47:42 10/17/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 67.159.44.138
Message:
I saw them and the whole time was wanting to tell them they were going about it all wrong! I use the same method to stack cakes....my enter dowel in secured into the base, there's a hole in the bottom of each cake board, and each tier is impaled over the dowel....cakes are always perfectly lined up!
I am wondering about doing the tilted cakes with buttercream frosted cakes.....I don't do fondant and won't eat it eaither! I was just wondering how to keep the cake from sliding off the board when tilted....but I've seen Sylvia Weinstock make cakes this way, so it can be done.
: They showed one of these on Fabulous Wedding Cakes last week. It had the styrofoam wedges between cake tiers, and they put a thick wooden stake through all of it to keep it together. They started out trying to hammer the stake through the cake, but it was causing the icing (fondant) on some of the tiers to crush down, so they took it apart and made holes through each cake tier and wedge and threaded them onto the stake. It made me nervous to watch it. After it was all attached together, they covered the wedges with piped buttercream and then put decorations on to hide the wedges.
: Have any of you done the buttercream icedm, tilted cakes like Ron Ben Israel and Sylvia Weinstock....not the ones where you carve holes in the tier below and cut the cakes at angles, but the ones where the cake boards sit at angles on wedges of styrofoam and the spaces between are filled with flowers.
What keeps the cakes from sliding off their base boards? Anyone done these? What's the secret?
Subject: Re: Tilted Cakes
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 16:44:54 10/17/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 67.159.44.138
Message:
: They showed one of these on Fabulous Wedding Cakes last week. It had the styrofoam wedges between cake tiers, and they put a thick wooden stake through all of it to keep it together. They started out trying to hammer the stake through the cake, but it was causing the icing (fondant) on some of the tiers to crush down, so they took it apart and made holes through each cake tier and wedge and threaded them onto the stake. It made me nervous to watch it. After it was all attached together, they covered the wedges with piped buttercream and then put decorations on to hide the wedges.
: Have any of you done the buttercream icedm, tilted cakes like Ron Ben Israel and Sylvia Weinstock....not the ones where you carve holes in the tier below and cut the cakes at angles, but the ones where the cake boards sit at angles on wedges of styrofoam and the spaces between are filled with flowers.
What keeps the cakes from sliding off their base boards? Anyone done these? What's the secret?
Subject: Peanut allergy question and cake mixes
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:14 10/09/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
I have a cake due next week and the lady said that the man was deathly allergic to nuts. On the side of most products including cake mixes it states may contain nuts. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes due I need to worry about peanut allergies with the white cake mix? What about vanilla pudding mixes? Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Subject: Re: Peanut allergy question and cake mixes
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 17:43:45 10/15/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
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Why risk it? Why don't you just bake a cake from scratch? That way you know exactly what's in it! Scratch cakes aren't really difficult at all. I've got many easy recipes if you need one.
: I have a cake due next week and the lady said that the man was deathly allergic to nuts. On the side of most products including cake mixes it states may contain nuts. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes due I need to worry about peanut allergies with the white cake mix? What about vanilla pudding mixes? Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Subject: Re: Peanut allergy question and cake mixes
From: foodguy
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Date Posted: 13:09:24 10/09/08 ()
Email Address: foodguy2000@hotmail.com
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I would recommend that you contact the cake mix manufacturer, either via email or an 800 number on the box. They can best give you the information that you are seeking and you will feel better having the information first hand from the company.
I have a small niece with a severe nut allergy and this is what we always do.
Subject: Re: Peanut allergy question and cake mixes
From: Angela
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Date Posted: 02:04:35 10/10/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
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I looked at the Betty Crocker Yellow cake mix tonight and the only items listed in the allergy section were wheat and milk products. It states allergy warning and the two products do you think it would be ok?
: I would recommend that you contact the cake mix manufacturer, either via email or an 800 number on the box. They can best give you the information that you are seeking and you will feel better having the information first hand from the company.
I have a small niece with a severe nut allergy and this is what we always do.
Subject: Man I'm going to have to start proof reading my messages my
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 12:21:25 10/09/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
trip to Hawaii has thrown me all off. I can't spell.LOL!
: I have a cake due next week and the lady said that the man was deathly allergic to nuts. On the side of most products including cake mixes it states may contain nuts. I use Betty Crocker cake mixes due I need to worry about peanut allergies with the white cake mix? What about vanilla pudding mixes? Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Subject: what colors to mix
From: Carolyn-Iowa
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Date Posted: 09:57:14 10/01/08 ()
Email Address: roddencaro@msn.com
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I need a Dark Plum color to tint my Buttercream icing in, what colors do you think I should mix to achieve this color? Purple, some red, black??
Subject: Re: what colors to mix
From: DeniseNH
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Date Posted: 17:27:40 10/01/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.101.15
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Yes, you'll need all of the above. Mostly dark red, a little purple and if needed, just a dot of black to darken it.
: I need a Dark Plum color to tint my Buttercream icing in, what colors do you think I should mix to achieve this color? Purple, some red, black??
Subject: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Amy L
To: All
Date Posted: 16:43:59 09/06/08 ()
Email Address: alidgett@traer.net
Entered From: at 209.144.61.181
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Is there a trick to getting a nice even coat of frosting on the outside edges of a layer cake? I frequently have problems frosting the sides of wedding cakes. Many times you can see a "shadow" where the 2 cakes meet, or I have too much frosting. I will then try to remove some with a bench scraper which often leaves places that don't have enough frosting. It takes me forever to get the cake frosted nicely. I have Wilton and Magic Line pans. I always put the bottom of each layer facing up. I'm wondering if putting the tops of each layer together would help with the shadow. Could people share how they position their cakes, and I'd love to hear ideas how to frost the sides of the cake so it's even. Thanks, Amy
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Amy L
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Date Posted: 11:03:55 09/13/08 ()
Email Address: alidgett@traer.net
Entered From: at 209.144.61.181
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Thanks for the advice everyone! It sounds like I'm going to start by trimming the cake where the 2 layers meet. Does it work best to do this when the cake is fresh or when it's frozen?
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Dolores
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Date Posted: 15:42:48 09/19/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
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I rarely froze a cake. I don't recommend icing it while it is still frozen or very cold. Moisture comes out in beads and then is a real mess.
I liked to bake the cakes the day before, let cool then ice and decorate the next day. If it is a tiered cake, let it set overnight if you can, all put together. This way, if anything happens, it happens at your shop or kitchen. Thats a 3 day process. Dolores at sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: anna n
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Date Posted: 07:59:46 09/15/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 67.130.185.64
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I trim mine while the cake is frozen. Much easier to handle and no worries about it breaking.
: Thanks for the advice everyone! It sounds like I'm going to start by trimming the cake where the 2 layers meet. Does it work best to do this when the cake is fresh or when it's frozen?
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 22:41:29 09/14/08 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.197.7
Message:
I trim mine right after the cake is stacked.
You're going to love the stress frees and your agbay!
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 21:05:09 09/10/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 12.189.118.152
Message:
I emailed you some good information. Let me know if you don't receive it.
Jeff
: Is there a trick to getting a nice even coat of frosting on the outside edges of a layer cake? I frequently have problems frosting the sides of wedding cakes. Many times you can see a "shadow" where the 2 cakes meet, or I have too much frosting. I will then try to remove some with a bench scraper which often leaves places that don't have enough frosting. It takes me forever to get the cake frosted nicely. I have Wilton and Magic Line pans. I always put the bottom of each layer facing up. I'm wondering if putting the tops of each layer together would help with the shadow. Could people share how they position their cakes, and I'd love to hear ideas how to frost the sides of the cake so it's even. Thanks, Amy
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:56 09/10/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
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A lot depends upon the tools you use. Use a good stiff straight 11" spatula to spread icing. Pile icing high on top edge and drag it down over the sides, then smooth it out.
Do you use a turntable? I can see uneveness if you don't.
If you hot knife it, dry the knife first or you'll have a mess.
I have this clunky video of wedding cakes. But many people have told me thats how they learned to ice cakes. Dolores at sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Amy L
To: All
Date Posted: 10:48:28 09/13/08 ()
Email Address: alidgett@traer.net
Entered From: at 209.144.61.181
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Hi Delores,
I did happen to buy your video this summer, and it was very informative. I actually used your method on the last wedding cake I did, with the exception of using a benchscraper on the side. I obviously was doing something wrong. For some reason I just had trouble getting the right amount of frosting on the side. Part of the problem may have been the masonite boards the cakes were on. They are just a little bigger than the cake, and I was using the board as my guide at first for the benchscraper to rub against. I don't think it was thick enough in places, and then I had problems with frosting hanging past the masonite when I added more frosting. Maybe it's supposed to do this.
I use the heavy wilton turntable. I've considered buying an electric one though. I've just invested in Stress Free Supports and an Agbay leveler, so the turn table is out of budget for a little while.
Maybe I'll skip the benchscraper and just use the spatula. I need to watch your video again.
Thanks for the ideas!
Amy
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:36 09/15/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
I'm glad that video helped. That is how I learned - I happened to be icing wedding cakes and a baker came on TV icing cakes. I tried it right then and used the method ever after.
I had an electric turntable. I wish I'd gotten it sooner. Before I got it, I was going home around 3am every Friday. After I bought it, I started going home about 6 pm with the same amount of cakes. Its good for your back too because you don't have to keep reaching down to turn the cake.
I'd put it ahead of either of those other tools. In fact, I never did find a need for the agby leveler.
Dolores at sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 06:49:40 09/08/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 67.130.184.96
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I stack both layers with the bottom sides up (Dolores has some instructions for eliminating an icing bulge in the archives file, and that's where I learned to do "bottoms up".) I also trim all the browned edges off the sides of the layers before stacking them. When I crumb-coat the sides, I use a thick, stiff icing so it further hides the joining. Then, ice as usual. These tricks have helped to reduce the icing bulge on the sides and also the shadow at the joining point.
: Is there a trick to getting a nice even coat of frosting on the outside edges of a layer cake? I frequently have problems frosting the sides of wedding cakes. Many times you can see a "shadow" where the 2 cakes meet, or I have too much frosting. I will then try to remove some with a bench scraper which often leaves places that don't have enough frosting. It takes me forever to get the cake frosted nicely. I have Wilton and Magic Line pans. I always put the bottom of each layer facing up. I'm wondering if putting the tops of each layer together would help with the shadow. Could people share how they position their cakes, and I'd love to hear ideas how to frost the sides of the cake so it's even. Thanks, Amy
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 23:27:59 09/07/08 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.197.7
Message:
Hi Amy!
I used to get the annoying shadow too until I started triming the sides of the tiers where the 2 layers meet. Even a slight difference in size where they join can leave a shadow because your frosting thickness doesn't match unless your cake does.
Subject: Re: Frosting a 2 layer cake
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 17:04:00 09/06/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 67.159.155.16
Message:
I use the Wilton icing tip. I cover the entire cake, smooth with my spatulas and then one more time with my spatulas dipped in hot water. I then let my cakes sit for 10 to 15 minutes and either smooth with a Viva paper towel or an imprint from one of the other brands. After my cakes have cooled I level each cake. The bottom layer is placed on a board leveled side up and the top layer is leveled side down. After filling and placing the top layer I check to make sure that the sides are flat all the way around and trim any rough edges with a knife where the two cakes meet. Hope this helps.
: Is there a trick to getting a nice even coat of frosting on the outside edges of a layer cake? I frequently have problems frosting the sides of wedding cakes. Many times you can see a "shadow" where the 2 cakes meet, or I have too much frosting. I will then try to remove some with a bench scraper which often leaves places that don't have enough frosting. It takes me forever to get the cake frosted nicely. I have Wilton and Magic Line pans. I always put the bottom of each layer facing up. I'm wondering if putting the tops of each layer together would help with the shadow. Could people share how they position their cakes, and I'd love to hear ideas how to frost the sides of the cake so it's even. Thanks, Amy
Subject: archives
From: Deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:11 09/05/08 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.215.79
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HOLY COW! I really never thought to look in the archives for information but I just read the "upside down decorating" and I am blown away. As someone who does not consider herself a "professional" decorator and has not had any training, I spend HOURS trying to ge the tops of my cakes smooth and the edges crisp. I think I just found my new method THANKS!
Subject: Hee Hee...never know what you'll find NM
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 15:10:18 09/15/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
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: HOLY COW! I really never thought to look in the archives for information but I just read the "upside down decorating" and I am blown away. As someone who does not consider herself a "professional" decorator and has not had any training, I spend HOURS trying to ge the tops of my cakes smooth and the edges crisp. I think I just found my new method THANKS!
Subject: where can I find the upside down instructions?
From: Veronica
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:58 10/20/08 ()
Email Address: vboren@bellsouth.net
Entered From: at 70.153.163.35
Message:
I have been thoroughly enjoying going back through the archives and reading the posts, but I still haven't found the instructions for getting tops and sides smooth and even. Can someone give me a hint?
Subject: Re: where can I find the upside down instructions?
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:56 10/27/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 74.215.167.230
Message:
I have a file that tells a lot about this. Go first to my private website: http://members.nuvox.net/~zt.proicer/index.html
See "Cake Gallery"
Top of that page: "Cakes ~~~bulging~~~ between layers. HOW TO ice a cake successfully."
There is a lot of information there for you. I hope it helps. Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Petite Fours
From: Margo
To: All
Date Posted: 00:07:59 09/04/08 ()
Email Address: mjl5099@earthlink.net
Entered From: at 4.244.33.95
Message:
I am going to be doing Petite Fours for my nieces wedding shower. Since I no longer have most of my cake supplies, I am doing this the "hard" way. I am planning to use dry fondant cookie icing to cover the cake pieces & then do a Choco Pan dark choc rose bud as the decoration. My nieces colors are muted fall colors but her bridemaids are going to be in choc dresses. How many cakes should I do per person as other finger food will be served also? It seems as I have been out of the "business" for sooo long but when you don't keep you hand in you start to doubt what you know. Thanks for all your help.
Subject: Re: Petite Fours
From: Kathyf
To: All
Date Posted: 23:30:36 09/07/08 ()
Email Address: fruitloop@crazy.com
Entered From: at 208.81.197.7
Message:
It depends on the size. If they're the smaller bite size ones I usually figure 2 per person.
Subject: Have you seen this site?
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 20:06:10 08/30/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/
Subject: Re: Have you seen this site?
From: Deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 11:43:50 09/05/08 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.215.79
Message:
: http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/
OMG! Carolyn I have now spent hours looking at this site and laughing my butt off. Whats that? The kids? uhhhhhh uh oh. gotta run
Subject: Re: Have you seen this site?
From: foodguy
To: All
Date Posted: 13:58:42 09/01/08 ()
Email Address: foodguy2000@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 66.66.74.206
Message:
Carolyn,
I got the biggest charge out of this site.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Subject: Hilarious!! I needed a good laugh! nt
From: jennifersc
To: All
Date Posted: 18:09:28 08/31/08 ()
Email Address: jenniferscakes@msn.com
Entered From: at 74.230.175.204
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Subject: Are Vanilla Beans edible?
From: Jeanne PA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:15:21 08/11/08 ()
Email Address: EZCakes@AOL.com
Entered From: at 72.81.96.107
Message:
I am playing with real vanilla beans to flavor my cakes. I have tried making vanilla sugar, doesn't give enough flavor. I thought about maybe adding chopped up beans to the sugar in my food processor. I know the seeds are edible, but what about the surface of the bean? Anyone know?
Subject: Re: Are Vanilla Beans edible?
From: Melanie Mc.
To: All
Date Posted: 19:05:30 12/02/08 ()
Email Address: Cdyne102@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
Scrape the vanilla bean w/ a sharp knife and add it to the cake batter (I add it w/ the butter and sugar). I re use the pods by putting them in either granulated or powdered sugar. When the pods dry out I grind them up finely in my coffee grinder and mix them back into the vanilla sugar. No waste! Lots of vanilla flavor in the sugar. HTH
Subject: Re: Are Vanilla Beans edible?
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 02:08:36 08/12/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
If you ever watch Food Network they always cut the bean open and slide a knife down the middle to remove and use the seeds. One of the ladies on the board makes her own vanilla I can't remember what kind of alcohol she uses. I have been playing with the idea of trying to make my own.
: I am playing with real vanilla beans to flavor my cakes. I have tried making vanilla sugar, doesn't give enough flavor. I thought about maybe adding chopped up beans to the sugar in my food processor. I know the seeds are edible, but what about the surface of the bean? Anyone know?
Subject: Need pattern for coral
From: Charlotte
To: All
Date Posted: 08:33:24 08/10/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.88.24.223
Message:
Does anyone have a pattern to use to make royal icing coral? I'm not very good at free-hand. Thanks.
Subject: Re: Need pattern for coral
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 13:37:56 08/13/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
hough I don't remember exactly where I saw it, this information is on our website. I believe it is with the old AOL chat info at http://members.nuvox.net/~zt.proicer/index.html (my private website).
If you can use Google search, I found it and is the 3rd choice listed. This is what I saw when I searched just for the word CORAL on the above website:
Date: April 4th, 1998 08:25:00 From: MaraTLee e-mail: marajami ...I have a grooms cake on May 1st to be done as a sandcastle to go along with the main cake which will be adorned with white chocolate sea shells and coral. ...
members.nuvox.net/~zt.proicer/archives/3April1998.html - 137k
when you get to that link and click it, she's telling how to make coral to use with seashells. You will probably find more.
Dolores at sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: Need pattern for coral
From: Charlotte
To: All
Date Posted: 16:27:13 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.88.27.60
Message:
Thank you so much Dolores. I am going to try this.
Subject: How to make a Lighthouse Topper
From: Charlotte
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:57 08/10/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.88.24.223
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I have to make an 8" lighthouse for a wedding cake topper. Should I try to carve styrofoam (which I hate), or should I cut fondant pieces and put them together, or what? Any suggestions will be appreciated!!! Someone told me to use Chicklets for the appearance of bricks. Please help. Only have two weeks.
Subject: Re: How to make a Lighthouse Topper
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:53:06 08/10/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
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Go to your local craft shop or WalMart and pick up a cone shaped piece of styro. Cut off the tip or the bottom until you have the perfect shape, and build your lighthouse over that shape, using squares of gray fondant for the shake siding (that's what they're made of in New England, not bricks). Chicklets would be too thick.: I have to make an 8" lighthouse for a wedding cake topper. Should I try to carve styrofoam (which I hate), or should I cut fondant pieces and put them together, or what? Any suggestions will be appreciated!!! Someone told me to use Chicklets for the appearance of bricks. Please help. Only have two weeks.
Subject: Re: How to make a Lighthouse Topper
From: Charlotte
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:32 08/15/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.88.27.60
Message:
Thank you so much for the help. I am going to try this. Wish me luck!
Subject: gumpaste plaque
From: mary ann
To: All
Date Posted: 09:59:48 08/05/08 ()
Email Address: redroofbakery@gmail.com
Entered From: at 69.43.28.187
Message:
What is the best way to dry a gumpaste plaque? Should it lay on paper towel,waxed paper or what? Also can I put a fondant silhouette on the dry plaque? Thanks.
Subject: Re: gumpaste plaque
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 10:34:24 08/06/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.132.100
Message:
I dry mine on parchment paper, but you can use wax paper or the slick side of freezer paper. If I'm putting a plaque on the side of a round cake, like on my monograms, as soon as I cut it out I pin plaque on paper to the side of a styrafoam dummie to dry. That way it has a curve to it and fits close to the cake with no gaps. example below
http://www.creationsbylaura.net/monogramspg1p8.html
: What is the best way to dry a gumpaste plaque? Should it lay on paper towel,waxed paper or what? Also can I put a fondant silhouette on the dry plaque? Thanks.
Subject: Re: gumpaste plaque
From: Mary Ann
To: All
Date Posted: 20:18:35 08/07/08 ()
Email Address: redroofbakery@gmail.com
Entered From: at 69.43.28.67
Message:
Laura, Your plaque is beautiful.Thanks for sharing.
Subject: Re: gumpaste plaque
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:42 08/06/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
Oh my gosh is that beautiful!!!!!!
: I dry mine on parchment paper, but you can use wax paper or the slick side of freezer paper. If I'm putting a plaque on the side of a round cake, like on my monograms, as soon as I cut it out I pin plaque on paper to the side of a styrafoam dummie to dry. That way it has a curve to it and fits close to the cake with no gaps. example below
http://www.creationsbylaura.net/monogramspg1p8.html
: What is the best way to dry a gumpaste plaque? Should it lay on paper towel,waxed paper or what? Also can I put a fondant silhouette on the dry plaque? Thanks.
Subject: Re: gumpaste plaque
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 23:36:10 08/06/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.150.85
Message:
That may be a bit grossly over reactive, but still very appreciated. Thanks
: Oh my gosh is that beautiful!!!!!!
: I dry mine on parchment paper, but you can use wax paper or the slick side of freezer paper. If I'm putting a plaque on the side of a round cake, like on my monograms, as soon as I cut it out I pin plaque on paper to the side of a styrafoam dummie to dry. That way it has a curve to it and fits close to the cake with no gaps. example below
http://www.creationsbylaura.net/monogramspg1p8.html
: What is the best way to dry a gumpaste plaque? Should it lay on paper towel,waxed paper or what? Also can I put a fondant silhouette on the dry plaque? Thanks.
Subject: Re: gumpaste plaque
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:19:35 08/05/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
A gumpaste plaque (like the one I have to make tonight) will dry on a piece of waxed paper but will need two nights. One on one side and one on the other. To speed things up, I make the plaque as thin as I dare, place it on waxed paper then onto a very flat cookie sheet and put it in my oven over night. Don't turn the oven on. Just leave the internal light on all night. Just the small heat from the light will successfully dry a gumpaste plaque overnight (both sides) without having to turn it over. And yes, you can attach fondant to a plaque - using just a small amount of water. The water acts as a glue. If you don't trust a dab of water, use royal icing but the water will work if you just bless the back of the cameo with water.
: What is the best way to dry a gumpaste plaque? Should it lay on paper towel,waxed paper or what? Also can I put a fondant silhouette on the dry plaque? Thanks.
Subject: Re: gumpaste plaque
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 16:50:13 08/09/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.n et
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
I just finished the plaque and placed a printed waffer paper design on it - stuck on using water. I found that when the water dries, the waffer paper seems to want to curl up on the edges so I redampened them and gently pressed it back into place - next time I'll use piping gel or thin wash of royal icing.
: A gumpaste plaque (like the one I have to make tonight) will dry on a piece of waxed paper but will need two nights. One on one side and one on the other. To speed things up, I make the plaque as thin as I dare, place it on waxed paper then onto a very flat cookie sheet and put it in my oven over night. Don't turn the oven on. Just leave the internal light on all night. Just the small heat from the light will successfully dry a gumpaste plaque overnight (both sides) without having to turn it over. And yes, you can attach fondant to a plaque - using just a small amount of water. The water acts as a glue. If you don't trust a dab of water, use royal icing but the water will work if you just bless the back of the cameo with water.
: What is the best way to dry a gumpaste plaque? Should it lay on paper towel,waxed paper or what? Also can I put a fondant silhouette on the dry plaque? Thanks.
Subject: Betttercream and fondant?
From: steenabeena
To: All
Date Posted: 08:10:09 08/02/08 ()
Email Address: cpg5@comcast.net
Entered From: at 68.61.18.5
Message:
1st time question - just wondering if I can use Bettercream as a filling and
still cover the cake with fondant? It was suggested that the whole thing
might get too hot and melt the Bettecream. Anyone tried this??
Subject: Re: Betttercream and fondant?
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 13:16:27 08/03/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
I think you'll be fine. From what I understand from the fellow who gave a lecture about Bettercreme at our Day Of Sharing, the stuff is great in hot weather because it's totally chemically based.
: 1st time question - just wondering if I can use Bettercream as a filling and
still cover the cake with fondant? It was suggested that the whole thing
might get too hot and melt the Bettecream. Anyone tried this??
Subject: Matching BC accents to royal flowers
From: Lori (CO)
To: All
Date Posted: 00:30:46 07/18/08 ()
Email Address: lori_delehoy@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.212.128.120
Message:
My mother decorated cakes when I was growing up and my daughter has been decorating for 4H for six years now. I serve mainly as advisor and helper although I would really like to do some decorating myself now. I have learned a great deal from you all by reading these posts and the archives, but now that the fair is approaching I have some specific questions we haven't yet answered by experimentation.
Royal and BC color so differently that last year my daughter (Alyssa) had to mix colors to get her BC garland to match the colorflow decoration on top. Our problem color was violet. We've tried a (shortening) BC recipe with meringe powder and one with milk and tested the color changes, but they still don't match the royal. She's on the verge of trying other recipes to make the cakes we eat even more tasty (and a recipe for flowers other than royal), but what seems to work well for competition is a shortening BC with royal flowers on a foam dummy. She's thinking of using garlands again and has decided that making them with royal would look best - especially since colors are not mixing in well with BC made with the new Crisco (we're trying other shortenings). You all have so much experience both with competition and with real cakes people actually want to eat - do you have any tips for us newbies?
Lori and Alyssa
P.S. She really loves to decorate. She's won Champion at both County and State the last two years. She's ready for more information but more than a little shy about posting.
Subject: Thank you all!
From: Lori (CO)
To: All
Date Posted: 07:39:55 07/20/08 ()
Email Address: lori_delehoy@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.212.217.253
Message:
We tried the Walmart store brand. It was definitely better, but we still had some color separation issues. I've bought some hi-ratio shortening that we'll try out. If it the color still separates, I'll have to take a hard look at the recipe or the way she's making it. It reminds of the way BC acts when there's too much water, but it's not quite the same.
I guess mixing to match colors between mediums is a way of life. I had read about adding milk/creamers to keep the purple from fading to blue and thought it might affect the initial color, too. It does! It's definitely less blue to begin with - more like royal, but not quite.
Thank you all for your input! I don't know that we'll be able to test all the ideas before the fair, but we'll certainly be trying them out.
Lori
Subject: Hi-ratio was great!
From: Lori (CO)
To: All
Date Posted: 07:50:06 08/02/08 ()
Email Address: lori_delehoy@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.212.152.97
Message:
She tried the hi-ratio with our same old recipe and it worked great! The color and texture was so smooth. She had a purple/blue garland to match some bachelor's buttons she had on her cake and the eveness of color was superb.
Subject: Re: Matching BC accents to royal flowers
From: deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 23:06:51 07/18/08 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.215.127
Message:
I do know i have had better luck using the oil based candy colors. You will also get more intense colors than with the paste colors.
: My mother decorated cakes when I was growing up and my daughter has been decorating for 4H for six years now. I serve mainly as advisor and helper although I would really like to do some decorating myself now. I have learned a great deal from you all by reading these posts and the archives, but now that the fair is approaching I have some specific questions we haven't yet answered by experimentation.
Royal and BC color so differently that last year my daughter (Alyssa) had to mix colors to get her BC garland to match the colorflow decoration on top. Our problem color was violet. We've tried a (shortening) BC recipe with meringe powder and one with milk and tested the color changes, but they still don't match the royal. She's on the verge of trying other recipes to make the cakes we eat even more tasty (and a recipe for flowers other than royal), but what seems to work well for competition is a shortening BC with royal flowers on a foam dummy. She's thinking of using garlands again and has decided that making them with royal would look best - especially since colors are not mixing in well with BC made with the new Crisco (we're trying other shortenings). You all have so much experience both with competition and with real cakes people actually want to eat - do you have any tips for us newbies?
Lori and Alyssa
P.S. She really loves to decorate. She's won Champion at both County and State the last two years. She's ready for more information but more than a little shy about posting.
Subject: Re: Matching BC accents to royal flowers
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 17:10:58 07/18/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 67.76.197.5
Message:
Save the Crisco that you have and use it for greasing pans only. It's just too soft and unstable anymore for icing use. I use store brand shortening that still has the transfats, and it does just fine. WalMart's store brand will work. Don't know if that will help with the color problem, but it will sure help with the disintegrating problem that Crisco icing has. Before switching to the store brand shortening, I tried adding meringue powder, flour, cornstarch, and extra powdered sugar to my buttercream icing, and none of them made the new Crisco any better. I haven't bought Crisco in over a year, and I'm happy with what I'm using now.
: My mother decorated cakes when I was growing up and my daughter has been decorating for 4H for six years now. I serve mainly as advisor and helper although I would really like to do some decorating myself now. I have learned a great deal from you all by reading these posts and the archives, but now that the fair is approaching I have some specific questions we haven't yet answered by experimentation.
Royal and BC color so differently that last year my daughter (Alyssa) had to mix colors to get her BC garland to match the colorflow decoration on top. Our problem color was violet. We've tried a (shortening) BC recipe with meringe powder and one with milk and tested the color changes, but they still don't match the royal. She's on the verge of trying other recipes to make the cakes we eat even more tasty (and a recipe for flowers other than royal), but what seems to work well for competition is a shortening BC with royal flowers on a foam dummy. She's thinking of using garlands again and has decided that making them with royal would look best - especially since colors are not mixing in well with BC made with the new Crisco (we're trying other shortenings). You all have so much experience both with competition and with real cakes people actually want to eat - do you have any tips for us newbies?
Lori and Alyssa
P.S. She really loves to decorate. She's won Champion at both County and State the last two years. She's ready for more information but more than a little shy about posting.
Subject: Re: Matching BC accents to royal flowers
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:12 07/18/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
Please tell your daughter that she's experiencing the same problems all decorators do - matching colors on one medium to another and also let her know that purple is the worse - it fades quickly to blue when exposed to daylight, lightbulbs any light source. But first, royal whips up really white so when you add color to it, you're getting a nice true color. Buttercream (especially with that darn new Crisco) tends to come out white but not as bright a white as royal so what if she tried adding some Wilton Whitener to the BC before adding the purple? Also have her add a nice heaping tablespoon full of regular flour to her BC batch (but eliminate the meringue powder - it's awfully yellow - the Crisco site say's this seems to solve the problem. Another trick is to make the BC and the Royal batches up the night before and let set in the fridge over night. Check on the color the next morning and adjust. I use Italian Meringue Buttercream, gumpaste and fondant and find that there's a color difference even in those three. Best of luck.
: My mother decorated cakes when I was growing up and my daughter has been decorating for 4H for six years now. I serve mainly as advisor and helper although I would really like to do some decorating myself now. I have learned a great deal from you all by reading these posts and the archives, but now that the fair is approaching I have some specific questions we haven't yet answered by experimentation.
Royal and BC color so differently that last year my daughter (Alyssa) had to mix colors to get her BC garland to match the colorflow decoration on top. Our problem color was violet. We've tried a (shortening) BC recipe with meringe powder and one with milk and tested the color changes, but they still don't match the royal. She's on the verge of trying other recipes to make the cakes we eat even more tasty (and a recipe for flowers other than royal), but what seems to work well for competition is a shortening BC with royal flowers on a foam dummy. She's thinking of using garlands again and has decided that making them with royal would look best - especially since colors are not mixing in well with BC made with the new Crisco (we're trying other shortenings). You all have so much experience both with competition and with real cakes people actually want to eat - do you have any tips for us newbies?
Lori and Alyssa
P.S. She really loves to decorate. She's won Champion at both County and State the last two years. She's ready for more information but more than a little shy about posting.
Subject: Re: Matching BC accents to royal flowers
From: Angelasw
To: All
Date Posted: 03:15:42 07/18/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
The new Crisco is horrible. I have tried other brands and the only shortening that works well for me is Hi Ratio shortening. You usually have to purchase at your local cake decorating store or here from Dolores. The price and sky rocketed in the last couple of months. I paid $10.99 for three pounds but it is well worth it. Try it you will never go back to regular shortening again. Beats up light and fluffy and colors mix well and don't separate. Good luck.
: My mother decorated cakes when I was growing up and my daughter has been decorating for 4H for six years now. I serve mainly as advisor and helper although I would really like to do some decorating myself now. I have learned a great deal from you all by reading these posts and the archives, but now that the fair is approaching I have some specific questions we haven't yet answered by experimentation.
Royal and BC color so differently that last year my daughter (Alyssa) had to mix colors to get her BC garland to match the colorflow decoration on top. Our problem color was violet. We've tried a (shortening) BC recipe with meringe powder and one with milk and tested the color changes, but they still don't match the royal. She's on the verge of trying other recipes to make the cakes we eat even more tasty (and a recipe for flowers other than royal), but what seems to work well for competition is a shortening BC with royal flowers on a foam dummy. She's thinking of using garlands again and has decided that making them with royal would look best - especially since colors are not mixing in well with BC made with the new Crisco (we're trying other shortenings). You all have so much experience both with competition and with real cakes people actually want to eat - do you have any tips for us newbies?
Lori and Alyssa
P.S. She really loves to decorate. She's won Champion at both County and State the last two years. She's ready for more information but more than a little shy about posting.
Subject: Pre made gumpaste flowers
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 15:07:46 07/13/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 69.62.254.39
Message:
My mothers retirement party is in three weeks and she wants a hawaiian theme cake. I am having trouble finding premade plumeria,hisbiscus and stargazer lilies. Any ideas? TIA.
Subject: Re: Pre made gumpaste flowers
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 10:27:28 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
: My mothers retirement party is in three weeks and I wonder if you have tried our own website here at the message board you are on:
http://www.sugarcraft.com
Dolores
Subject: Re: Pre made gumpaste flowers
From: Loouise
To: All
Date Posted: 19:23:12 07/14/08 ()
Email Address: schicky@losch.net
Entered From: at 75.101.132.45
Message:
Go to www.discountsugarflowers.com
beautiful flowers and great prices. I use them all the time. Really fast delivery also.
Subject: Re: Pre made gumpaste flowers
From: Loouise
To: All
Date Posted: 19:20:55 07/14/08 ()
Email Address: schicky@losch.net
Entered From: at 75.101.132.45
Message:
Go to www.discountsugarflowers.com
beautiful flowers and great prices. I use them all the time. Really fast delivery also.
Subject: New Cake Decorating Magazine
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 07:03:18 07/13/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
Question: I just got the new Wilton magazine and found less cake pictures in it than in past years. One I did like but can't figure out how to accomplish it. It's the dark chocolate square cake with cascading white and brown fondant ribbons on each side that are imprinted with dark brown flowers. I understand how to get the imprint (by purchasing one of their rolling pins) but are they telling us that with a 00 tip, and brown royal, we need to go over each fondant design? Boy is that labor intensive.
Subject: Re: New Cake Decorating Magazine
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 15:44:17 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
Have you tried contacting Wilton? Maybe they can help you with that.
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Fondant rounding cake edge
From: Joyce
To: All
Date Posted: 06:56:07 07/09/08 ()
Email Address: joydegroot@wi.rr.com
Entered From: at 98.144.5.34
Message:
When I cover a cake with fondant (iced 1st in buttercream)- if often makes the edges on the top of the cake look rounded & sort of "pulled down". Any Hints?
Subject: Re: Fondant rounding cake edge
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:51:54 07/10/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
The only thing I can think of is to make your fondant thinner - place the cake that has been crumb coated in the freezer to stiffen it up a bit then put the fondant on. Quickly get it smooth then leave it on the counter until the moisture goes away (if any) and continue to work on it. Thought for the day. If we toss a blanket over just about anything, we create round edges. :-) Hey, did you guys know that this site thinks that another word for moisture - like what you do under your armpits, is offensive????
: When I cover a cake with fondant (iced 1st in buttercream)- if often makes the edges on the top of the cake look rounded & sort of "pulled down". Any Hints?
Subject: Any Ideas??
From: Deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:45 07/08/08 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.214.10
Message:
Hey all, Ok, I make custom order cake decorations/toppers. I have a customer who wants a popular space man character). The only part of the character that I am having trouble comming up with an answer for is how to make the bubble portion of the space helmet. I need something that will be clear, safe to go on a cake and will attach to fondant and or gum paste (which is what the character will be made from). This will be shipped so it also needs to be firm enough to ship (I pack all of my pieces really well and have never had a breakage issue) Any ideas would be appreciated.
Subject: Re: Any Ideas??
From: Mary K
To: All
Date Posted: 11:07:24 07/09/08 ()
Email Address: jnkfree@frontiernet.net
Entered From: at 70.100.91.3
Message:
Lost my first post, (I think) You might try Unbreakable Gel, it comes in transparent, and white, Adele Neish has a book out on it, called, At Last Unbreakable. I don't know if Delores handles it or not, but you can check.
: Hey all, Ok, I make custom order cake decorations/toppers. I have a customer who wants a popular space man character). The only part of the character that I am having trouble comming up with an answer for is how to make the bubble portion of the space helmet. I need something that will be clear, safe to go on a cake and will attach to fondant and or gum paste (which is what the character will be made from). This will be shipped so it also needs to be firm enough to ship (I pack all of my pieces really well and have never had a breakage issue) Any ideas would be appreciated.
Subject: Re: Any Ideas??
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:52 07/10/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.102.250
Message:
PLEASE be careful that you're not in violation of the law by making a likeness of the "space ship" character to sell. Most characters are copyrighted. Hate to be a spoil sport but all decorators have to work around this law or face stiff penalties.
: Lost my first post, (I think) You might try Unbreakable Gel, it comes in transparent, and white, Adele Neish has a book out on it, called, At Last Unbreakable. I don't know if Delores handles it or not, but you can check.
: Hey all, Ok, I make custom order cake decorations/toppers. I have a customer who wants a popular space man character). The only part of the character that I am having trouble comming up with an answer for is how to make the bubble portion of the space helmet. I need something that will be clear, safe to go on a cake and will attach to fondant and or gum paste (which is what the character will be made from). This will be shipped so it also needs to be firm enough to ship (I pack all of my pieces really well and have never had a breakage issue) Any ideas would be appreciated.
Subject: Fondant on dummies ?
From: JeannePA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:57 07/01/08 ()
Email Address: EZCakes@AOL.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
What is the best way to get fondant to stick to styrofoam dummy cakes?
Subject: Re: Fondant on dummies ?
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:59 07/02/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.185.142
Message:
A very very thin layer of piping gel
: What is the best way to get fondant to stick to styrofoam dummy cakes?
Subject: Re: Fondant on dummies ?
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 16:43:18 07/01/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
Message:
I just lightly wet the dummy and then wipe it off slightly and it seems to stick just fine.
Subject: Re: Fondant on dummies ?
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:31 07/02/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.101.192
Message:
I agree, just mist it with water and you're golden. do all mine that way.
: I just lightly wet the dummy and then wipe it off slightly and it seems to stick just fine.
Subject: Chocolate Starfish and Coral Pattern
From: Charlotte Anderson
To: All
Date Posted: 17:17:51 06/30/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.88.53.210
Message:
I saw a wedding cake with chocolate starfish that looked like they were reclining on the cake. Does anyone know how to bend the starfish? I also need a pattern to make coral with royal icing. Anybody have one they would like to share? I need to use both of these on a wedding cake next month. Thanks.
Subject: Re: Chocolate Starfish and Coral Pattern
From: Charlotte
To: All
Date Posted: 05:30:21 07/01/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.153.20.101
Message:
Thanks Laura. I just figured that since the picture was on a page about chocolate that the starfish was made with chocolate. Is it possible to use fondant with candy molds? If so, how would you do it?
Subject: Re: Chocolate Starfish and Coral Pattern
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:54:20 07/01/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.101.192
Message:
Yup, just Pam the inside of the mold, press in the fondant, release and position on a curved surface to dry for a few days.
: Thanks Laura. I just figured that since the picture was on a page about chocolate that the starfish was made with chocolate. Is it possible to use fondant with candy molds? If so, how would you do it?
Subject: Re: Chocolate Starfish and Coral Pattern
From: Charlotte
To: All
Date Posted: 19:39:06 07/02/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.88.31.182
Message:
Thanks for the info Denise. I will try it.
Subject: Re: Chocolate Starfish and Coral Pattern
From: Charlotte
To: All
Date Posted: 19:19:07 06/30/08 ()
Email Address: schotwheels@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 4.88.53.210
Message:
I forgot to include the link for the picture of the cake. http://www.sugarcraft.com/catalog/coloring/dusts-help.htm#chocolate
Subject: Re: Chocolate Starfish and Coral Pattern
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 21:49:25 06/30/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.170.133
Message:
I don't know about the chocolate part. You could bend them if they were molded out of fondant.
: I forgot to include the link for the picture of the cake. http://www.sugarcraft.com/catalog/coloring/dusts-help.htm#chocolate
Subject: rasberry filling
From: Deneen
To: All
Date Posted: 09:16:43 06/17/08 ()
Email Address: ldchang@comcast.net
Entered From: at 24.127.169.172
Message:
I have only used buttercream as my cake filling. Someone has requested rasberry filling. Can I just get that at the supermarket,like a preserve or do I need special cake filling. Thanks
Subject: Re: rasberry filling
From: Carolyn-Iowa
To: All
Date Posted: 16:20:40 06/19/08 ()
Email Address: roddencaro@msn.com
Entered From: at 75.167.84.28
Message:
: I have only used buttercream as my cake filling. Someone has requested rasberry filling. Can I just get that at the supermarket,like a preserve or do I need special cake filling. Thanks
I stir seedless Raspberry Jam into my Buttercream Icing, everyone loves it. Stir in as much jam to icing ratio as you want.
Subject: Re: rasberry filling
From: Roseanna
To: All
Date Posted: 21:46:55 06/17/08 ()
Email Address: fearless-baker@flash.net
Entered From: at 75.4.219.160
Message:
I have only good quality seedless rasberry preserves. Some people use sleeve fillings that they get in cake dec. shops. I have also heard of people using pureed rasberrys with their bc. why not google some resipes.
Subject: Re: rasberry filling
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:25 06/17/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.238
Message:
Here's an easy way to give your customer what they want without putting a slippery filling in your cakes that may lead to a mishap. Use your buttercream icing but tint it with a dot of pink, then add some LorAnn raspberry oil and mix. Apply to center of cake then to the bottom of the top layer lightly spread on some SEEDLESS raspberry jam. When the two are together you have a raspberry filling. My customers love it - but I use Italian meringue buttercream. Bet it works well with standard buttercream.
: I have only used buttercream as my cake filling. Someone has requested rasberry filling. Can I just get that at the supermarket,like a preserve or do I need special cake filling. Thanks
Subject: How to pipe coral
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 10:37:36 06/05/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 67.159.155.9
Message:
Can anyone give me any tips on how to make coral pieces for a Little Mermaid cake? What tip should I use and would you use buttercream or royal icing?
Subject: Re: How to pipe coral
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 09:44:52 06/06/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.191.85
Message:
Here is the link to one I did
http://www.creationsbylaura.net/seasidepg1p5.html
It was piped in royal with a # 4 writing tip. I did small pieces about 2 to 4 inches eack once dried stuck ends in cake all around. Gave it nice dimesion:
Can anyone give me any tips on how to make coral pieces for a Little Mermaid cake? What tip should I use and would you use buttercream or royal icing?
Subject: The royal didn't melt?!!
From: Lori (CO)
To: All
Date Posted: 23:32:27 07/17/08 ()
Email Address: lori_delehoy@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.212.128.120
Message:
I agree - that's a BEAUTIFUL cake, but I have a question. A couple of years ago my daughter made a cake for the 4H county fair. She made an interesting cake with a pond, lily pad border, figure piped ducks, and cattails sticking up at one end of the pond. The cattails were made of royal and inserted in the cake the night before the cake was turned in for competition. By morning the cattails had dissolved in the cake and fallen over. Talk about a scramble to try to fix things! How do you keep yours from melting? Is it a time factor - they're only there for a few hours whereas my daughter's was 12+ hours? We're really interested in learning how to decorate this way successfully, so any thoughts you have would be helpful.
Subject: wired
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 22:21:50 07/22/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.147.33
Message:
Any thing fine that has to stand up needs to be wired. Check your e-mail I e-mailed you a picture of cat tails that I did on a wedding cake.
: I agree - that's a BEAUTIFUL cake, but I have a question. A couple of years ago my daughter made a cake for the 4H county fair. She made an interesting cake with a pond, lily pad border, figure piped ducks, and cattails sticking up at one end of the pond. The cattails were made of royal and inserted in the cake the night before the cake was turned in for competition. By morning the cattails had dissolved in the cake and fallen over. Talk about a scramble to try to fix things! How do you keep yours from melting? Is it a time factor - they're only there for a few hours whereas my daughter's was 12+ hours? We're really interested in learning how to decorate this way successfully, so any thoughts you have would be helpful.
Subject: Re: wired
From: Lori (CO)
To: All
Date Posted: 20:23:45 07/24/08 ()
Email Address: lori_delehoy@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 71.212.152.97
Message:
Thank you for taking time to answer what must have been a stupid question. Your cakes are something to aspire to - this cake is beautiful! I'm just beginning to be aware of using wire. The kids in 4H slowly build skills and are not allowed to use anything non-edible (inedible?) until much later. She's in Unit 5 right now and I think Unit 7 is where they are allowed to use inedible materials. Now we know for the future! Thanks.
Subject: Re: wired
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 09:57:16 07/25/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.141.240
Message:
I was wondering about that (non edible thing). I have used raw speghetti before for guitar strings. Don't know if it might work. You can push it in real or soft cake but think it would break in styrafoam (too hard). You might try rolling gumpaste to use for your stems too. It wouldn't break as royal would and woudn't draw moisture out of the frosting and soften as fondant would. By the way... There are no stupid questions that's how we all learn.
Thank you for taking time to answer what must have been a stupid question. Your cakes are something to aspire to - this cake is beautiful! I'm just beginning to be aware of using wire. The kids in 4H slowly build skills and are not allowed to use anything non-edible (inedible?) until much later. She's in Unit 5 right now and I think Unit 7 is where they are allowed to use inedible materials. Now we know for the future! Thanks.
Subject: Re: How to pipe coral
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 20:27:21 06/10/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
I love your cake...I love beach and sea themed cakes...my heart is always along the beaches of South Carolina!
: Here is the link to one I did
http://www.creationsbylaura.net/seasidepg1p5.html
It was piped in royal with a # 4 writing tip. I did small pieces about 2 to 4 inches eack once dried stuck ends in cake all around. Gave it nice dimesion:
Can anyone give me any tips on how to make coral pieces for a Little Mermaid cake? What tip should I use and would you use buttercream or royal icing?
Subject: Laura, that is a gorgeous cake
From: Twez (TX)
To: All
Date Posted: 06:19:39 06/07/08 ()
Email Address: twez@netzero.net
Entered From: at 66.19.114.138
Message:
I love your attention to detail. And WOW! what did you use for the "seaweed"? That was a great staging detail.
Subject: Re: Laura, that is a gorgeous cake
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 20:14:39 06/10/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
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Not sure what cake you are looking at. The seaweed on most of them are just piped with a 104 rose tip. The beach cake with the bare foot couple on top it was just paited on with a brush.
: I love your attention to detail. And WOW! what did you use for the "seaweed"? That was a great staging detail.
Subject: The leaves on the table makes it look like a bed of seaweed.
From: Twez (TX)
To: All
Date Posted: 06:11:29 06/11/08 ()
Email Address: Twez@netzero.net
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I thought that was a wonderful touch to carry out the seascape theme. What did you use - rubber tree leaves, silk plant leaves,etc.?
Subject: Re: The leaves on the table makes it look like a bed of seaweed.
From: Laura White Mo.
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Date Posted: 08:32:22 06/11/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
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Message:
Can't take credit or help you there. The florist had them there for me when I arrived. I do remember the cake was set up on a grand piano. Because boy where they paticilar about not scratching that piano.
: I thought that was a wonderful touch to carry out the seascape theme. What did you use - rubber tree leaves, silk plant leaves,etc.?
Subject: Re: Laura, that is a gorgeous cake
From: Carolyn (MO)
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Date Posted: 18:20:51 06/07/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
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Laura does really neat work! I've seen it at our DOS and also some she's had at convention.
Subject: Tassel
From: Rebecca
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Date Posted: 18:07:42 06/03/08 ()
Email Address: Justbeck1@sbcglobal.net
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I am making a graduation cap and was wondering if I should attach the tassel made of fondant after it has dried or before? The cake will be transported about 20 miles.
Thanks
Subject: Re: Tassel
From: KDunn
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Date Posted: 08:37:45 06/04/08 ()
Email Address: kdunn@woh.rr.com
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I would attach it while the fondant is still pliable and you are able to put it where you want it. It will dry pretty solid and be good to go during transportation, provided you did not make one that is REALLY heavy.
Subject: Does anyone have a recipe for modeling chocolate?
From: Angela
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Date Posted: 13:09:56 05/31/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
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Need to mold Dora figures.
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a recipe for modeling chocolate?
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 19:13:42 05/31/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
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Modeling Chocolate
MAKES ABOUT 1 CUP
ingredients
8 ounces semisweet chocolate chips or I use chocolate wafers such as Wilton
1/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon light corn syrup
directions
Melt the chocolate in a metal bowl set over a pan of hot but not boiling water. Stir the chocolate with a wooden spoon until smooth, then stir in the corn syrup; the chocolate will stiffen almost immediately. Stir until completely combined. Transfer the chocolate to a sturdy plastic bag and refrigerate until firm.
Work the Modeling Chocolate with your hands until pliable. Hand-shape the Modeling Chocolate into flowers, braids or ropes. Or pat it into a disk and roll it out to the desired thickness by hand or in a manual pasta machine and use it to make ribbons or for cutting out shapes.
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a recipe for modeling chocolate?
From: Laura White Mo.
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Date Posted: 09:38:45 06/06/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
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Message:
Would that ratio work the same with any of the colored candy melts, texture and workability.
: Modeling Chocolate
MAKES ABOUT 1 CUP
ingredients
8 ounces semisweet chocolate chips or I use chocolate wafers such as Wilton
1/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon light corn syrup
directions
Melt the chocolate in a metal bowl set over a pan of hot but not boiling water. Stir the chocolate with a wooden spoon until smooth, then stir in the corn syrup; the chocolate will stiffen almost immediately. Stir until completely combined. Transfer the chocolate to a sturdy plastic bag and refrigerate until firm.
Work the Modeling Chocolate with your hands until pliable. Hand-shape the Modeling Chocolate into flowers, braids or ropes. Or pat it into a disk and roll it out to the desired thickness by hand or in a manual pasta machine and use it to make ribbons or for cutting out shapes.
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a recipe for modeling chocolate?
From: Carolyn (MO)
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Date Posted: 18:22:00 06/07/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
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Message:
I think it probably would Laura.
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a recipe for modeling chocolate?
From: deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 08:34:20 06/01/08 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.216.215
Message:
I use tootsie rolls that have been softened in the microwave. The are perfect for modeling. The dry really shiny also.
: Modeling Chocolate
MAKES ABOUT 1 CUP
ingredients
8 ounces semisweet chocolate chips or I use chocolate wafers such as Wilton
1/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon light corn syrup
directions
Melt the chocolate in a metal bowl set over a pan of hot but not boiling water. Stir the chocolate with a wooden spoon until smooth, then stir in the corn syrup; the chocolate will stiffen almost immediately. Stir until completely combined. Transfer the chocolate to a sturdy plastic bag and refrigerate until firm.
Work the Modeling Chocolate with your hands until pliable. Hand-shape the Modeling Chocolate into flowers, braids or ropes. Or pat it into a disk and roll it out to the desired thickness by hand or in a manual pasta machine and use it to make ribbons or for cutting out shapes.
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a recipe for modeling chocolate?
From: jennifersc
To: All
Date Posted: 09:36:20 06/08/08 ()
Email Address: jenniferscakes@msn.com
Entered From: at 74.230.182.130
Message:
What is the benefit of using modeling chocolate versus fondant or chocolate fondant? I know Duff uses a lot of it, but really, what for?
: Modeling Chocolate
MAKES ABOUT 1 CUP
ingredients
8 ounces semisweet chocolate chips or I use chocolate wafers such as Wilton
1/4 cup plus 1 tablespoon light corn syrup
directions
Melt the chocolate in a metal bowl set over a pan of hot but not boiling water. Stir the chocolate with a wooden spoon until smooth, then stir in the corn syrup; the chocolate will stiffen almost immediately. Stir until completely combined. Transfer the chocolate to a sturdy plastic bag and refrigerate until firm.
Work the Modeling Chocolate with your hands until pliable. Hand-shape the Modeling Chocolate into flowers, braids or ropes. Or pat it into a disk and roll it out to the desired thickness by hand or in a manual pasta machine and use it to make ribbons or for cutting out shapes.
Subject: Choco-pan
From: George
To: All
Date Posted: 08:35:32 05/31/08 ()
Email Address: gmfraggos@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
Hi;
I'm new to using Choco-pan. What should I use to help it adhere to the cake? (Piping gel?)
What should I use to help it adhere to it self? (water?)
Subject: Re: Choco-pan
From: Roseanna
To: All
Date Posted: 18:18:52 05/31/08 ()
Email Address: fearless-baker@flash.net
Entered From: at 75.4.221.186
Message:
I use a thin crumb coat. Sometime for a chocolate cake I use a seedless rasberry jam.
Subject: Re: Choco-pan
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 15:12:35 05/31/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.238
Message:
Hi George: I would use a thin coat of your regular icing. I've never liked the smell of piping gel so I try not to use it. Maybe a seedless jam instead? And yes, you can use water to stick choco-pan to itself. Just think of it as fondant. Just about the same.
: Hi;
I'm new to using Choco-pan. What should I use to help it adhere to the cake? (Piping gel?)
What should I use to help it adhere to it self? (water?)
Subject: CK Gum Pate Mix
From: Shirley
To: All
Date Posted: 09:53:14 05/27/08 ()
Email Address: fscam@bellsouth.com
Entered From: at 68.222.12.39
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Has anyone been having problems with this mix? Lately we have bee noticing that it just isn't working as well as it used to and we have been using it for years. Yesterday was the last straw. Could not get any elasticity at all.It comes together well, but when you try to mold or shape, it breaks instead of folding.
Subject: Re: CK Gum Pate Mix
From: DeniseNH
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Date Posted: 06:20:02 05/28/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.238
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Sounds like it needs some Crisco in it. I make my own Gumpaste and it only takes 5 minutes. Into a mixing bowl put 4 cups of powdered sugar and One tablespoon of CMC (Gum Tragicanth substitute). Into a measuring cup put 1/3rd cup of cold water then pour just a splash of it back out (you want a scant 1/3rd cup), into that - put 1-1/2 tsp. powdered gelatin powder. Let set for a minute then microwave for one minute. This next part is very important. Stir this mixture for a good 2 minutes or a little longer. Looks clear but contains tiny imperfections that will make pimples in your finished paste if not dissolved. To the wet mixture add one heaping tablespoon of Crisco or any solid fat and one tablespoon full of clear Karo syrup and stir. Turn your mixer on (with the dough hook in it) and add the wet ingredients to the dry - mixer is on slow. Place a kitchen towel over the head of the mixer so that any powder won't fly out at you. Mix for a couple minutes. If mix is too sticky, place more powdered sugar on your kitchen counter and mix the sticky dough into it until you're satisfied with the texture. Grease a piece of Saran wrap and wrap around the ball of gumpaste and place in the fridge to set up. I often can use it right away or will pop it into the freezer for 10 minutes then can use it. Whole process takes 5 minutes and you have a product you can depend on every time.
: Has anyone been having problems with this mix? Lately we have bee noticing that it just isn't working as well as it used to and we have been using it for years. Yesterday was the last straw. Could not get any elasticity at all.It comes together well, but when you try to mold or shape, it breaks instead of folding.
Subject: Re: CK Gum Pate Mix
From: Shirley
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:49 05/31/08 ()
Email Address: fscam@bellsouth.net
Entered From: at 70.156.107.132
Message:
Thanks Denise. I will pass this on to her. I made some at home for my own use and I really liked it. But for some reason, she has always wanted to use the mix.
: Sounds like it needs some Crisco in it. I make my own Gumpaste and it only takes 5 minutes. Into a mixing bowl put 4 cups of powdered sugar and One tablespoon of CMC (Gum Tragicanth substitute). Into a measuring cup put 1/3rd cup of cold water then pour just a splash of it back out (you want a scant 1/3rd cup), into that - put 1-1/2 tsp. powdered gelatin powder. Let set for a minute then microwave for one minute. This next part is very important. Stir this mixture for a good 2 minutes or a little longer. Looks clear but contains tiny imperfections that will make pimples in your finished paste if not dissolved. To the wet mixture add one heaping tablespoon of Crisco or any solid fat and one tablespoon full of clear Karo syrup and stir. Turn your mixer on (with the dough hook in it) and add the wet ingredients to the dry - mixer is on slow. Place a kitchen towel over the head of the mixer so that any powder won't fly out at you. Mix for a couple minutes. If mix is too sticky, place more powdered sugar on your kitchen counter and mix the sticky dough into it until you're satisfied with the texture. Grease a piece of Saran wrap and wrap around the ball of gumpaste and place in the fridge to set up. I often can use it right away or will pop it into the freezer for 10 minutes then can use it. Whole process takes 5 minutes and you have a product you can depend on every time.
: Has anyone been having problems with this mix? Lately we have bee noticing that it just isn't working as well as it used to and we have been using it for years. Yesterday was the last straw. Could not get any elasticity at all.It comes together well, but when you try to mold or shape, it breaks instead of folding.
Subject: confetti cake
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 09:05:58 05/26/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.125
Message:
I know there used to be a confetti cake mix in which the colored "confetti" was incorporated into the batter before the cake was baked. I can't find that mix anymore, and I have a customer who wants a confetti cake. This is not with sprinkles on the outside of the cake--it's supposed to have colored bits in the cake itself. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks in advance.
Subject: Thanks to all--more
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 09:39:02 05/27/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.86.172.38
Message:
I finally was able to find the Pillsbury "Funfetti" mixes, so I don't have to improvise after all. I just baked it and can't stand the smell of it--too much chemical additive, fake flavoring,or something. I don't use the name brand mixes for this very reason and wouldn't have on this one except the customer specified that's what she wanted. I'm waiting for the odor to clear out of my kitchen so I can go back in and do some more work. Anyway, thanks to all who made suggestions.
I know there used to be a confetti cake mix in which the colored "confetti" was incorporated into the batter before the cake was baked. I can't find that mix anymore, and I have a customer who wants a confetti cake. This is not with sprinkles on the outside of the cake--it's supposed to have colored bits in the cake itself. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks in advance.
Subject: Re: Thanks to all--more
From: deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 08:26:57 05/28/08 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.216.215
Message:
WOW! I use this mix for kids cakes all the time. I have never had an issue with the smell. It has a very sweet taste but that is all I have ever noticed. Good luck.
: I finally was able to find the Pillsbury "Funfetti" mixes, so I don't have to improvise after all. I just baked it and can't stand the smell of it--too much chemical additive, fake flavoring,or something. I don't use the name brand mixes for this very reason and wouldn't have on this one except the customer specified that's what she wanted. I'm waiting for the odor to clear out of my kitchen so I can go back in and do some more work. Anyway, thanks to all who made suggestions.
I know there used to be a confetti cake mix in which the colored "confetti" was incorporated into the batter before the cake was baked. I can't find that mix anymore, and I have a customer who wants a confetti cake. This is not with sprinkles on the outside of the cake--it's supposed to have colored bits in the cake itself. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks in advance.
Subject: Re: Thanks to all--more
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 11:36:34 05/28/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.163
Message:
It's not just the funfetti mix that bothers me--it's all the name brand mixes. DH, BC, and PB all just taste and smell like chemicals to me. I can tell it at the first bite, and it just bothers me. The store brand mix that I use doesn't have that taste and smell, and if they ever stop making it, I'll probably quit doing cakes. That's how much I've come to depend on it.
: WOW! I use this mix for kids cakes all the time. I have never had an issue with the smell. It has a very sweet taste but that is all I have ever noticed. Good luck.
: I finally was able to find the Pillsbury "Funfetti" mixes, so I don't have to improvise after all. I just baked it and can't stand the smell of it--too much chemical additive, fake flavoring,or something. I don't use the name brand mixes for this very reason and wouldn't have on this one except the customer specified that's what she wanted. I'm waiting for the odor to clear out of my kitchen so I can go back in and do some more work. Anyway, thanks to all who made suggestions.
I know there used to be a confetti cake mix in which the colored "confetti" was incorporated into the batter before the cake was baked. I can't find that mix anymore, and I have a customer who wants a confetti cake. This is not with sprinkles on the outside of the cake--it's supposed to have colored bits in the cake itself. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks in advance.
Subject: Re: confetti cake
From: deanna
To: All
Date Posted: 19:25:04 05/26/08 ()
Email Address: beeboos@ctcis.net
Entered From: at 69.27.216.215
Message:
Pillsbury makes the Funfetti mix. It is cheaper than adding your own candy but if you do, use the multi colored jimies. I use the pillsbury mix all the time for kids cakes.
: I know there used to be a confetti cake mix in which the colored "confetti" was incorporated into the batter before the cake was baked. I can't find that mix anymore, and I have a customer who wants a confetti cake. This is not with sprinkles on the outside of the cake--it's supposed to have colored bits in the cake itself. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks in advance.
Subject: Re: confetti cake
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 09:55:42 05/26/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
Message:
I think this would work: if you can find those little confetti bits (I buy them from our local bakery supply in about a 8 oz. jar, I think) and then just add maybe a cup full to a white cake mix. I like to use the bits on top of a fun cake to dress it up.
Subject: Re: confetti cake
From: Rose1WY
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:34 05/26/08 ()
Email Address: rmjones@bresnan.net
Entered From: at 69.145.60.90
Message:
When I do this I stir in the little candy sprinkles or bits at the end of mixing. Sometimes mixing breaks them or they start to melt too much. Hope this helps!
: I think this would work: if you can find those little confetti bits (I buy them from our local bakery supply in about a 8 oz. jar, I think) and then just add maybe a cup full to a white cake mix. I like to use the bits on top of a fun cake to dress it up.
Subject: Re: confetti cake
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:57:55 05/26/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.238
Message:
That's what I would do too. Add the round colored pastel sprinkles in at the last minute. Stir and pour into my baking pans.
: When I do this I stir in the little candy sprinkles or bits at the end of mixing. Sometimes mixing breaks them or they start to melt too much. Hope this helps!
: I think this would work: if you can find those little confetti bits (I buy them from our local bakery supply in about a 8 oz. jar, I think) and then just add maybe a cup full to a white cake mix. I like to use the bits on top of a fun cake to dress it up.
Subject: Advice on baking a 16" round tier
From: foodguy
To: All
Date Posted: 12:37:50 05/21/08 ()
Email Address: foodguy2000@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 66.66.74.206
Message:
A friend of ours has asked me to bake her son's wedding cake. She will ice and decorate it. I haven't baked a 16" round cake in years, and after trying the pan in our new oven have discovered that there is a "lip" on the back of the oven rack that prevents the pan from setting evenly. If I invert a 12x18x1 sheet pan on the rack, and set the 16" on it, the sheet pan is the right height to lift the pan above the lip and the 16" fits well.
Does anyone have any opinions as to whether the cake would bake coorectly? I know some people set round pans on sheet pans to bake-this is sort of the reverse?
Ideas please?
Subject: Just put the oven rack in upside down, so the lip goes down.
From: Jeanne PA
To: All
Date Posted: 06:32:45 05/24/08 ()
Email Address: EZCakes@AOL.com
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Message:
I do this all the time with no problem. HTH! : A friend of ours has asked me to bake her son's wedding cake. She will ice and decorate it. I haven't baked a 16" round cake in years, and after trying the pan in our new oven have discovered that there is a "lip" on the back of the oven rack that prevents the pan from setting evenly. If I invert a 12x18x1 sheet pan on the rack, and set the 16" on it, the sheet pan is the right height to lift the pan above the lip and the 16" fits well.
Does anyone have any opinions as to whether the cake would bake coorectly? I know some people set round pans on sheet pans to bake-this is sort of the reverse?
Ideas please?
Subject: Re: Advice on baking a 16" round tier
From: Shirley
To: All
Date Posted: 08:18:46 05/23/08 ()
Email Address: fscam@bellsouth.net
Entered From: at 68.222.23.155
Message:
I had this same problem last November. I found a wire cake rack, that made uo the difference. I set the cake rack on the oven rack and put my pan on top of it. Worked great. Just have to be careful when you go to remove the cake that the cake rack doesn't slide forward. I will not hesitate to do it this way again.
: A friend of ours has asked me to bake her son's wedding cake. She will ice and decorate it. I haven't baked a 16" round cake in years, and after trying the pan in our new oven have discovered that there is a "lip" on the back of the oven rack that prevents the pan from setting evenly. If I invert a 12x18x1 sheet pan on the rack, and set the 16" on it, the sheet pan is the right height to lift the pan above the lip and the 16" fits well.
Does anyone have any opinions as to whether the cake would bake coorectly? I know some people set round pans on sheet pans to bake-this is sort of the reverse?
Ideas please?
Subject: Re: Advice on baking a 16" round tier
From: Rose1WY
To: All
Date Posted: 19:45:52 05/21/08 ()
Email Address: rmjones@bresnan.net
Entered From: at 69.145.60.90
Message:
Looks like it's you and me foodguy! I think it would work just fine. When I bake my 16" rounds I put a flower nail upside down in the middle of the batter--to help it bake more evenly. Good luck!
: A friend of ours has asked me to bake her son's wedding cake. She will ice and decorate it. I haven't baked a 16" round cake in years, and after trying the pan in our new oven have discovered that there is a "lip" on the back of the oven rack that prevents the pan from setting evenly. If I invert a 12x18x1 sheet pan on the rack, and set the 16" on it, the sheet pan is the right height to lift the pan above the lip and the 16" fits well.
Does anyone have any opinions as to whether the cake would bake coorectly? I know some people set round pans on sheet pans to bake-this is sort of the reverse?
Ideas please?
Subject: Re: Advice on baking a 16" round tier
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 05:36:27 05/22/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 170.185.149.19
Message:
I've never tried anything like that....just wonder of the heat from the pan might overbrown the bottom of the layer.
How about this...are you familiar with home canning? The metal rings that are used with lids would work great for this. Put four in a square and one in the middle of the rack and set the pan on these....no blocking of the heat currents would happen here. You could also use small cans, like tuna cans, with the top and bottoms removed if you can't find canning rings.
: Looks like it's you and me foodguy! I think it would work just fine. When I bake my 16" rounds I put a flower nail upside down in the middle of the batter--to help it bake more evenly. Good luck!
: A friend of ours has asked me to bake her son's wedding cake. She will ice and decorate it. I haven't baked a 16" round cake in years, and after trying the pan in our new oven have discovered that there is a "lip" on the back of the oven rack that prevents the pan from setting evenly. If I invert a 12x18x1 sheet pan on the rack, and set the 16" on it, the sheet pan is the right height to lift the pan above the lip and the 16" fits well.
Does anyone have any opinions as to whether the cake would bake coorectly? I know some people set round pans on sheet pans to bake-this is sort of the reverse?
Ideas please?
Subject: Re: Advice on baking a 16" round tier
From: Rose1WY
To: All
Date Posted: 05:55:34 05/22/08 ()
Email Address: rmjones@bresnan.net
Entered From: at 69.145.60.90
Message:
Didn't think about the overbrowning...I like your idea Jeff, sounds like it would work.
Thanks for your advice about the lily cascade too!
Subject: Great idea, Jeff
From: foodguy
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Date Posted: 19:14:57 05/22/08 ()
Email Address: foodguy2000@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 66.66.74.206
Message:
My wife cans, so we have a cupboard full of those rings.
Thank you!
Subject: Gumpaste Flower Cascade Question
From: Rose1WY
To: All
Date Posted: 11:51:45 05/21/08 ()
Email Address: rmjones@bresnan.net
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Hi I am wondering what is the best way to create a gumpaste calla lily flora cascade down the side of a stacked 16", 12" and 8" fondant covered cake. I have the flowers made and am wondering do you all stick them individually into the cakes or do you create little bouquets of flowers? Any help would be greatly appreciated! TIA!!
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Subject: Re: Gumpaste Flower Cascade Question
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 13:20:55 05/24/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
You won't need to stick them in the cake. I think they look best in a long bouquet. The stems can show if they are pretty and green. They can look like a bouquet even if you don't assemble before laying them on the cake.
Here is one I did.
Subject: Not much activity.............
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:13 05/19/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
Message:
Not much activity on this board - has everyone been swamped with cake orders? I just finished 2 weeks of lots of cakes for graduations and 6 weddings so I'm ready for a rest. Think I had 56 graduation cakes (mostly 12 x 18) for the 2 weeks. I turned down a bunch of graduations that I just couldn't have time to get baked and done. This week is slower and I truly am ready for that!!
Subject: Too tired!
From: JeannePA
To: All
Date Posted: 07:56:25 05/20/08 ()
Email Address: EZCakes@AOL.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
I bake like a fiend, finish ans deliver, then sleep for 3 days, clean, then start again!: Not much activity on this board - has everyone been swamped with cake orders? I just finished 2 weeks of lots of cakes for graduations and 6 weddings so I'm ready for a rest. Think I had 56 graduation cakes (mostly 12 x 18) for the 2 weeks. I turned down a bunch of graduations that I just couldn't have time to get baked and done. This week is slower and I truly am ready for that!!
Subject: I HATE new Crisco! Can't get icing to stay up!
From: JeannePA
To: All
Date Posted: 09:56:56 05/19/08 ()
Email Address: EZCakes@AOL.com
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Message:
We had our first warmish weekend here, and every one on my cakes had the icing slide slowly down the sides once they were out of the fridge! AAARRGGHH! I added 1/2 cup of cake flour to the recipe to compensate for the new formula. What else can I do? I do a cooked French buttercream- 16 egg whites, 4 lbs 10X, 3 lbs crisco, 1 lb butter. Any ideas?
Subject: Re: I HATE new Crisco! Can't get icing to stay up!
From: Casey
To: All
Date Posted: 16:09:06 10/03/08 ()
Email Address: ADHHitch@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 70.245.114.229
Message:
I am also still using the "new" Crisco & have no problems. I live in the Midwest and our summers are 100* + with a minimum of 80% humidity & some times worse. (you can litteraly see the humidity hanging in the air at times) You would think that the extreme humidity here would have a negative effect on my icing, but it doesn't seem to be very severe. Obviously the heat does affect the cake, but I have never had a cake fall apart or had my icing slide off the sides. Maybe I have just been lucky.
Subject: Re: I HATE new Crisco! Can't get icing to stay up!
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 19:15:24 05/19/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
Message:
I found at our Price Chopper a brand called Best Choice and it is quite comparable to the old crisco. None of my customers seem to have noticed a difference.
You may have to try several to find what you want, but surely you can. The new Crisco just doesn't work! I don't care what Crisco is telling everyone or telling you to do such as add cake flour or cornstarch. My icing has had cornstarch in it for years and the new Crisco was awful! A nightmare! I don't do much fondant and don't have the time to spend on French buttercream or some of those others and some of my customers are allergic to eggs so that wouldn't work either. Last week alone I went through about 200# of powdered sugar so I need to make big batches at a time in my 20 quart mixer.
Subject: shortening test
From: Laura White Mo.
To: All
Date Posted: 15:33:02 05/24/08 ()
Email Address: cake_creations@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 70.238.184.126
Message:
I agree with Carolyn. That brand is a one of the better ones. I did a test of my own. I bought one can of every store brand and name brand shortening I could find in my area. About 18 cans in all. Opened every one of them up. Compared them all to one another. When determining the ones you like. Record all information looking at the following, all vegtable, pre-creamed, made with meat fats....Picked my favorites by how white they are in color and how firm they were. Soft shortening means too soft of a frosting that won't hold up. The top favorites in my own test being the whitest in color and firmness.
#1 Value Time pre-creamed (bought at Schnucks)
#2 Mrs. Tuckers (bought at a local owned market)
#3 Schnucks (own store brand, all vegetable shortening)
#4 Best Choice (all vegtable)
Subject: Re: I HATE new Crisco! Can't get icing to stay up!
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 12:01:50 05/19/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.111
Message:
Use what Crisco you have for greasing pans only. Find a store brand shortening that still has the transfats in it and use it instead of the Crisco for your icing. I haven't bought Crisco in a year and won't ever again.
added 1/2 cup of cake flour to the recipe to compensate for the new formula. What else can I do? I do a cooked French buttercream- 16 egg whites, 4 lbs 10X, 3 lbs crisco, 1 lb butter. Any ideas?
Subject: Re: I HATE new Crisco! Can't get icing to stay up!
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:20:03 05/19/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.238
Message:
I tried a few store brands and they were awful. One made your mouth feel really greasy and the other dulled the flavorings I put into it. Wish I lived near a restaurant supply store that offered the old stuff. But slowly all brands are going trans-fat free. I have been decorating for years now with IMBC or fondant. That's all you can do unless you can locate a store that sells high ratio shortening.
: Use what Crisco you have for greasing pans only. Find a store brand shortening that still has the transfats in it and use it instead of the Crisco for your icing. I haven't bought Crisco in a year and won't ever again.
added 1/2 cup of cake flour to the recipe to compensate for the new formula. What else can I do? I do a cooked French buttercream- 16 egg whites, 4 lbs 10X, 3 lbs crisco, 1 lb butter. Any ideas?
Subject: Re: I HATE new Crisco! Can't get icing to stay up!
From: jennifersc
To: All
Date Posted: 16:07:53 05/24/08 ()
Email Address: jenniferscakes@msn.com
Entered From: at 74.250.134.184
Message:
Also, a friend of mine knows someone at a local Mexican restaurant who was willing to order for her. She ordered Hi-ratio from Sysco for $54 for 50 lbs.
Subject: Re: I HATE new Crisco! Can't get icing to stay up!
From: Carolyn - Iowa
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:02 05/27/08 ()
Email Address: roddencaro@msn.com
Entered From: at 75.167.88.218
Message:
: Also, a friend of mine knows someone at a local Mexican restaurant who was willing to order for her. She ordered Hi-ratio from Sysco for $54 for 50 lbs.
I guess I'm a bit confused as to what some of the issue are with the "New Crisco"? I'm still using it, and haven't had any issues with it. I did however write the company & told them of the complaints from cake decorators. Here was there response: Tips for consumers who are decorating cakes using frosting made with Crisco products: 1. If there are a lot of air bubbles in the frosting after mixing, stir by hand to minimize the air bubbles appearance. Do not over mix.
2. Do not frost frozen cakes. CAkes should be completely cooled to room temperature, or refrigerated for 1 hour before frosting.
3. Use a paper towel to smooth out any parts of the frosting that appear to have a rough or grainly texture.
To reduce frosting shininess & improve crusting, use either of these techniques:
1. Add 1 T. of Meringue powder for every cup of shortening in the recipe.
-OR-
2. Add 1 t. at a time of Corn Starch (up to 6 t.) for every 1 c. of shortening in the recipe until proper consistency is achieved.
To Lessen the stiffness of the frosting, try these techniques in the order listed:
1. Omit Meringue powder from the recipe.
2. If the icing is still too stiff, add 1 T. of water at a time until frosting is the desired consistency.
This is what I received from the company, just wanted to share with everyone.
Subject: Jeff: Gumpaste Flowers
From: Rebecca
To: All
Date Posted: 12:35:44 05/18/08 ()
Email Address: Justbeck1@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 70.248.169.11
Message:
Hi Jeff,
I looked at your website with the flower formers that you made and I just have a question. When you cut the petals do you thin them around the edges again after you cut them or do you just put them in your little former? Also, what kind of cutters do you use because I have been using the 5 petal cutter from fmm and I am not sure I like it.
Thanks
Subject: Re: Jeff: Gumpaste Flowers
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 15:36:08 05/19/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
Yes, after I cut the petals, I thin the edges before they go into the former.
I use the 5 petal cutter now for the first three rows of petals. The pointed ones are individual petals...the largest is about 2 inches.
: Hi Jeff,
I looked at your website with the flower formers that you made and I just have a question. When you cut the petals do you thin them around the edges again after you cut them or do you just put them in your little former? Also, what kind of cutters do you use because I have been using the 5 petal cutter from fmm and I am not sure I like it.
Thanks
Subject: decorating fondant
From: joyce
To: All
Date Posted: 09:32:56 05/16/08 ()
Email Address: joydegroot@wi.rr.com
Entered From: at 98.144.5.34
Message:
I am making a wedding cake which gets covered in fondant & decorated with some scrollwork. Should I use royal icing or buttercream for the scrollwork?
Subject: Re: decorating fondant
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:25 05/16/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
Butercream is fine. Royal, since it dries hard, could break in transport.
: I am making a wedding cake which gets covered in fondant & decorated with some scrollwork. Should I use royal icing or buttercream for the scrollwork?
Subject: Re: decorating fondant
From: joyce
To: All
Date Posted: 17:20:17 05/16/08 ()
Email Address: joydegroot@wi.rr.com
Entered From: at 98.144.5.34
Message:
Thanks Jeff!
: Butercream is fine. Royal, since it dries hard, could break in transport.
: I am making a wedding cake which gets covered in fondant & decorated with some scrollwork. Should I use royal icing or buttercream for the scrollwork?
Subject: SOS: Cracking cake
From: Bethany
To: All
Date Posted: 22:19:38 05/15/08 ()
Email Address: bethany@beautifulcakesandbridals.com
Entered From: at 12.206.58.73
Message:
For all of you Duncan Hines users - is anyone having any trouble with cake cracking? I have been baking for 19 years and have used DH all this time. The past couple of white cakes I have baked have cracked right down the middle, always after I have decorated them.
I always use the recipe as it states on the box. I.e., for one box I use 1 1/3 cup water, three egg whites and 2 tbsp oil. I bake at 350 until toothpick comes clean. I guess the only thing that has changed since I've had cracking issues is that I moved to the south (Alabama) from Minnesota. Therefore, I am baking on a different oven (however, it's electric, just like I've always baked on).
Can anyone offer any suggestions at all? I have multiple stacked cakes and wedding cakes in the next week and I'm starting to panic a bit. HELP!
Subject: Re: SOS: Cracking cake
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:03 05/18/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 67.159.155.9
Message:
I used to use Duncan Hines but switched to Betty Crocker. Last week I purchase a Duncan Hines white mix because it was on sale. I to noticed the edges of my cakes were cracking. I have never had this problem with Betty. I think I will stick with using Betty Crocker from now on. By the way I am in Ca so i think it's the mix not your location.
: For all of you Duncan Hines users - is anyone having any trouble with cake cracking? I have been baking for 19 years and have used DH all this time. The past couple of white cakes I have baked have cracked right down the middle, always after I have decorated them.
I always use the recipe as it states on the box. I.e., for one box I use 1 1/3 cup water, three egg whites and 2 tbsp oil. I bake at 350 until toothpick comes clean. I guess the only thing that has changed since I've had cracking issues is that I moved to the south (Alabama) from Minnesota. Therefore, I am baking on a different oven (however, it's electric, just like I've always baked on).
Can anyone offer any suggestions at all? I have multiple stacked cakes and wedding cakes in the next week and I'm starting to panic a bit. HELP!
Subject: Re: SOS: Cracking cake
From: Carolyn - Iowa
To: All
Date Posted: 07:39:50 05/16/08 ()
Email Address: roddencaro@msn.com
Entered From: at 75.167.88.218
Message:
: For all of you Duncan Hines users - is anyone having any trouble with cake cracking? I have been baking for 19 years and have used DH all this time. The past couple of white cakes I have baked have cracked right down the middle, always after I have decorated them.
I always use the recipe as it states on the box. I.e., for one box I use 1 1/3 cup water, three egg whites and 2 tbsp oil. I bake at 350 until toothpick comes clean. I guess the only thing that has changed since I've had cracking issues is that I moved to the south (Alabama) from Minnesota. Therefore, I am baking on a different oven (however, it's electric, just like I've always baked on).
Can anyone offer any suggestions at all? I have multiple stacked cakes and wedding cakes in the next week and I'm starting to panic a bit. HELP!
I have always replaced the water called for to milk on the DH box mixes. I would also suggest to turn your oven to either 325 or even 300 degrees & bake for a bit longer time. I've never had the cake cracking problem with this manner of mixing the batter or the baking temperatures. Good Luck!
Subject: Re: SOS: Cracking cake
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 18:34:13 05/16/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.238
Message:
DH white mixes are touchie and mine seem to cling to the sides of the pan leaving a ring of cake stuck to the outer rim (1/4 inch all the way around) so now I run a knife around the edge when it comes out of the oven to prevent it. I also add a half box of white chocolate pudding to the mix. Seems to make the better richer. Hope this helps. I've never had cracking down the middle. Sounds like your tiers under the cake aren't perfectly level. That's the only thing I can think of.
: : For all of you Duncan Hines users - is anyone having any trouble with cake cracking? I have been baking for 19 years and have used DH all this time. The past couple of white cakes I have baked have cracked right down the middle, always after I have decorated them.
I always use the recipe as it states on the box. I.e., for one box I use 1 1/3 cup water, three egg whites and 2 tbsp oil. I bake at 350 until toothpick comes clean. I guess the only thing that has changed since I've had cracking issues is that I moved to the south (Alabama) from Minnesota. Therefore, I am baking on a different oven (however, it's electric, just like I've always baked on).
Can anyone offer any suggestions at all? I have multiple stacked cakes and wedding cakes in the next week and I'm starting to panic a bit. HELP!
I have always replaced the water called for to milk on the DH box mixes. I would also suggest to turn your oven to either 325 or even 300 degrees & bake for a bit longer time. I've never had the cake cracking problem with this manner of mixing the batter or the baking temperatures. Good Luck!
Subject: Re: SOS: Cracking cake
From: Natalie
To: All
Date Posted: 20:31:55 05/18/08 ()
Email Address: nrjcake@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
Carolyn,
Do you adjust the ingredients when you add the white chocolate pudding? Also,What brand do you use? I tried replacing some of the water (1 cup) with 1 cup of sour cream. I'm not sure if it makes a difference.
: DH white mixes are touchie and mine seem to cling to the sides of the pan leaving a ring of cake stuck to the outer rim (1/4 inch all the way around) so now I run a knife around the edge when it comes out of the oven to prevent it. I also add a half box of white chocolate pudding to the mix. Seems to make the better richer. Hope this helps. I've never had cracking down the middle. Sounds like your tiers under the cake aren't perfectly level. That's the only thing I can think of.
: : For all of you Duncan Hines users - is anyone having any trouble with cake cracking? I have been baking for 19 years and have used DH all this time. The past couple of white cakes I have baked have cracked right down the middle, always after I have decorated them.
I always use the recipe as it states on the box. I.e., for one box I use 1 1/3 cup water, three egg whites and 2 tbsp oil. I bake at 350 until toothpick comes clean. I guess the only thing that has changed since I've had cracking issues is that I moved to the south (Alabama) from Minnesota. Therefore, I am baking on a different oven (however, it's electric, just like I've always baked on).
Can anyone offer any suggestions at all? I have multiple stacked cakes and wedding cakes in the next week and I'm starting to panic a bit. HELP!
I have always replaced the water called for to milk on the DH box mixes. I would also suggest to turn your oven to either 325 or even 300 degrees & bake for a bit longer time. I've never had the cake cracking problem with this manner of mixing the batter or the baking temperatures. Good Luck!
Subject: how do I make hibiscus flowers
From: Janice Spofford
To: All
Date Posted: 11:18:59 05/06/08 ()
Email Address: jspofford@charter.net
Entered From: at 24.181.225.6
Message:
Could anyone give me instructions on which tip and how to pipe a hibiscus flower? TIA
Subject: Re: how do I make hibiscus flowers
From: Rebecca
To: All
Date Posted: 20:20:05 05/06/08 ()
Email Address: Justbeck1@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 70.248.169.11
Message:
Here is a picture of one
: Could anyone give me instructions on which tip and how to pipe a hibiscus flower? TIA
Subject: Re: how do I make hibiscus flowers
From: Rebecca
To: All
Date Posted: 20:14:34 05/06/08 ()
Email Address: Justbeck1@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 70.248.169.11
Message:
For gumpaste
This is not instructions on how to make one, but it is some information on how some parts are made. It is a video on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka-2RgcjU-A
: Could anyone give me instructions on which tip and how to pipe a hibiscus flower? TIA
Subject: Re: how do I make hibiscus flowers
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 14:33:58 05/15/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
That is nice! And soon you can buy Scott's cutters and other tools exclusively at Sugarcraft along with your other fun tools here. Scott Wooley is the best! Dolores
Subject: Re: how do I make hibiscus flowers
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 16:18:13 05/16/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
Gee Delores....
Is that the same Scott who got mad at you and me a couple years ago because we thought his DVD was too expensive for most decorators to afforf? He told me to NEVER try to order anything from him again! Glad you two have been able to patch things up!
: That is nice! And soon you can buy Scott's cutters and other tools exclusively at Sugarcraft along with your other fun tools here. Scott Wooley is the best! Dolores
Subject: Delores...did you get a chance to read this?
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 09:19:10 05/29/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 170.185.149.19
Message:
: Gee Delores....
Is that the same Scott who got mad at you and me a couple years ago because we thought his DVD was too expensive for most decorators to afforf? He told me to NEVER try to order anything from him again! Glad you two have been able to patch things up!
: That is nice! And soon you can buy Scott's cutters and other tools exclusively at Sugarcraft along with your other fun tools here. Scott Wooley is the best! Dolores
Subject: IMBC Does not color well
From: Rebecca
To: All
Date Posted: 22:03:36 05/05/08 ()
Email Address: Justbeck1@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 70.248.169.11
Message:
I was wondering if it is me or if this icing just does not color well. If it does not then what can I do to get deeper colors besides not using it? If it is me, then please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thanks
Subject: Thank you for all your help!
From: Rebecca
To: All
Date Posted: 12:37:48 05/18/08 ()
Email Address: Justbeck1@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 70.248.169.11
Message:
:I was wondering if it is me or if this icing just does not color well. If it does not then what can I do to get deeper colors besides not using it? If it is me, then please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thanks
Subject: Re: IMBC Does not color well
From: EileenPA
To: All
Date Posted: 06:57:29 05/07/08 ()
Email Address: eileen@cakeartstudio.net
Entered From: at 70.20.198.5
Message:
: I was wondering if it is me or if this icing just does not color well. If it does not then what can I do to get deeper colors besides not using it? If it is me, then please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thanks
You can get a deeper color with IMBC if you work ahead. I use Americolor gel colors. After mixing the color into the buttercream let it sit at room temp for several hours or, preferably, over night. You'll find that when you go back to the buttercream it will have darkened significantly.
Subject: Re: IMBC Does not color well
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 07:47:42 05/06/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.162
Message:
I use IMBC only and have gotten it to a medium color only - so you're right, it doesn't take to dark colors but does take well to the new ELECTRIC colors. Try those. They're more intense without adding a lot of liquid or gel to your icing.
: I was wondering if it is me or if this icing just does not color well. If it does not then what can I do to get deeper colors besides not using it? If it is me, then please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thanks
Subject: Re: IMBC Does not color well
From: Rebecca
To: All
Date Posted: 20:01:21 05/06/08 ()
Email Address: Justbeck1@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 70.248.169.11
Message:
Okay, thank you. I will purchase some of those colors. Have you tried airbrushing it? Does it take well or does it turn spotty? Thanks again
Rebecca
T: I use IMBC only and have gotten it to a medium color only - so you're right, it doesn't take to dark colors but does take well to the new ELECTRIC colors. Try those. They're more intense without adding a lot of liquid or gel to your icing.
: I was wondering if it is me or if this icing just does not color well. If it does not then what can I do to get deeper colors besides not using it? If it is me, then please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thanks
Subject: Re: IMBC Does not color well
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 06:14:49 05/07/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 12.156.137.98
Message:
Since IMBC is practically all fat, water based colors won't blend well. You could try colors made for coloring chocolate....they are oil based and should blend better.
: Okay, thank you. I will purchase some of those colors. Have you tried airbrushing it? Does it take well or does it turn spotty? Thanks again
Rebecca
T: I use IMBC only and have gotten it to a medium color only - so you're right, it doesn't take to dark colors but does take well to the new ELECTRIC colors. Try those. They're more intense without adding a lot of liquid or gel to your icing.
: I was wondering if it is me or if this icing just does not color well. If it does not then what can I do to get deeper colors besides not using it? If it is me, then please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thanks
Subject: Re: IMBC Does not color well
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 14:00:57 05/07/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.162
Message:
Jeff is right, since IMBC is so soft an airbrush would blow holes in it and the colors would bead up and run down the side of the cake so airbrushing is best on fondant or crusted buttercream.
: Since IMBC is practically all fat, water based colors won't blend well. You could try colors made for coloring chocolate....they are oil based and should blend better.
: Okay, thank you. I will purchase some of those colors. Have you tried airbrushing it? Does it take well or does it turn spotty? Thanks again
Rebecca
T: I use IMBC only and have gotten it to a medium color only - so you're right, it doesn't take to dark colors but does take well to the new ELECTRIC colors. Try those. They're more intense without adding a lot of liquid or gel to your icing.
: I was wondering if it is me or if this icing just does not color well. If it does not then what can I do to get deeper colors besides not using it? If it is me, then please tell me what I am doing wrong.
Thanks
Subject: Alpine Hi Ratio shortening
From: Natallie
To: All
Date Posted: 14:09:38 04/29/08 ()
Email Address: nrjcake@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
I tried some of the Alpine because Crisco changed its formula, but I find that the Alpine isn't as tasty. Does anyone else find this? To me, it seems that the icing comes out tasting more "generic" like a bakery. I use butter and shortening in my recipe. Any suggestions?
Subject: Re: Alpine Hi Ratio shortening
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:27 05/15/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
When we had our bakery I used Alpine for years. I actually thought it tasted better than the old Crisco icing. It didn't seem quite as sweetsy. But if you add Butavan to it, I don't think you'll care which shortening you use. The flavor is heavenly! Dolores
Subject: Re: Alpine Hi Ratio shortening
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 06:40:16 04/30/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
I have not tried Alpine, but I got some Sweetex. I really can't say I like it any better than the generic brand I switched to from the grocery store. I tried Wal-Mart brand and didn't care much for it, but this Best Choice from our Price chopper store tastes a lot like Crisco and my customers have not noticed a difference, I don't think. For the price difference, I'll use the store brand.
Subject: Re: Alpine Hi Ratio shortening
From: Barbara R
To: All
Date Posted: 17:05:51 04/29/08 ()
Email Address: sambar63@suddenlink.net
Entered From: at 74.194.45.45
Message:
I totally agree with you....I used 2x as much flavoring as with Crisco and it still didn't taste as good to me. I didn't find any difference in the consistency from old Crisco. I'm so glad I'm not in business anymore so I don't have to disappoint my customers! I would be going nuts!!!
Subject: Re: Alpine Hi Ratio shortening
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:46 04/29/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.162
Message:
But what about the consistency - was it better? If so, you can always add flavorings into the icing to make it taste better. That part's easier to do than make the new Crisco behave like the new. :-)
: I tried some of the Alpine because Crisco changed its formula, but I find that the Alpine isn't as tasty. Does anyone else find this? To me, it seems that the icing comes out tasting more "generic" like a bakery. I use butter and shortening in my recipe. Any suggestions?
Subject: Re: Alpine Hi Ratio shortening
From: Natalie
To: All
Date Posted: 16:54:12 04/29/08 ()
Email Address: nrjcake@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
The consitstency was definitely creamier, and smoother. I add vanilla for flavor and that helps, but for some reason the Alpine doesn't let the taste of the butter come through. I use a 50/50 ratio of butter/shortening. My clients like the "old" icing and I'm concerned about changing the recipe. Maybe if I just make sure it is very cold when I deliver it and tell them to keep it out at room temperature for several hours so the icing gets soft?
: But what about the consistency - was it better? If so, you can always add flavorings into the icing to make it taste better. That part's easier to do than make the new Crisco behave like the new. :-)
: I tried some of the Alpine because Crisco changed its formula, but I find that the Alpine isn't as tasty. Does anyone else find this? To me, it seems that the icing comes out tasting more "generic" like a bakery. I use butter and shortening in my recipe. Any suggestions?
Subject: Re: Alpine Hi Ratio shortening
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:43:05 04/29/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.162
Message:
What about adding some Wilton Butter Flavor clear extract. It sure does make it smell like butter.
: The consitstency was definitely creamier, and smoother. I add vanilla for flavor and that helps, but for some reason the Alpine doesn't let the taste of the butter come through. I use a 50/50 ratio of butter/shortening. My clients like the "old" icing and I'm concerned about changing the recipe. Maybe if I just make sure it is very cold when I deliver it and tell them to keep it out at room temperature for several hours so the icing gets soft?
: But what about the consistency - was it better? If so, you can always add flavorings into the icing to make it taste better. That part's easier to do than make the new Crisco behave like the new. :-)
: I tried some of the Alpine because Crisco changed its formula, but I find that the Alpine isn't as tasty. Does anyone else find this? To me, it seems that the icing comes out tasting more "generic" like a bakery. I use butter and shortening in my recipe. Any suggestions?
Subject: Cracking fondant
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 23:15:25 04/26/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 66.81.57.63
Message:
I purchased Satin Ice fondant for a wedding cake and after I cover the cakes and started decorating I noticed that some of the tiers were cracking. Can anyone tell me what might cause this? I have never had this problem when I use MM fondant but since it was a wedding I wanted to make sure that the fondant had good flavor. The couple had someone pick up the cake so I hope it made it the to wedding in one piece. I guess I will see how well the Stress Free supports that I purchased work out.
Subject: Re: Cracking fondant
From: Blondie
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:48 04/29/08 ()
Email Address: jcruby@iowatelecom.net
Entered From: at 69.66.26.183
Message:
Ever since I had trouble with my Satin Ice cracking when I put it on the cake, I have mixed in a little Crisco when I knead it. That has helped cut down on the cracks.
Subject: Re: Cracking fondant
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:23:49 04/27/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.162
Message:
The only thing I can think of is that you rolled it out on confectioners sugar or cornstarch and used too much. I roll my MMF out on Crisco and have never had a problem.
: I purchased Satin Ice fondant for a wedding cake and after I cover the cakes and started decorating I noticed that some of the tiers were cracking. Can anyone tell me what might cause this? I have never had this problem when I use MM fondant but since it was a wedding I wanted to make sure that the fondant had good flavor. The couple had someone pick up the cake so I hope it made it the to wedding in one piece. I guess I will see how well the Stress Free supports that I purchased work out.
Subject: Re: Cracking fondant
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 12:48:41 04/27/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 66.81.56.114
Message:
I have never had a problem when I use MM fondant only the Satin Ice. I think maybe the marshmallows help with the elasticity. I think I will make my own from now on.
: The only thing I can think of is that you rolled it out on confectioners sugar or cornstarch and used too much. I roll my MMF out on Crisco and have never had a problem.
: I purchased Satin Ice fondant for a wedding cake and after I cover the cakes and started decorating I noticed that some of the tiers were cracking. Can anyone tell me what might cause this? I have never had this problem when I use MM fondant but since it was a wedding I wanted to make sure that the fondant had good flavor. The couple had someone pick up the cake so I hope it made it the to wedding in one piece. I guess I will see how well the Stress Free supports that I purchased work out.
Subject: Slippery icing
From: Judy in PA
To: All
Date Posted: 17:15:04 04/26/08 ()
Email Address: je136@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
I made my first batch of buttercream icing with the new Crisco. I had stocked up on the old but finally ran out. The icing with the O trans fat Crisco seemed very nice when I made it but till I got the cake to the reception hall the icing started sliding off the one layer. I was able to repair it and pray it stayed there till the reception. I use 2 cups high ration and one cup Crisco to 6 pounds of powdered sugar. Any suggestions what I need to do to it to make it less slippery? Also, I always use Duncan Hines cake mixes but the couple wanted milk chocolate so I used a Betty Crocker for the top cake that had the icing problem. The other layers were Duncan Hines and the icing stayed on them.
Subject: Re: Slippery icing
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:22 04/28/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.194
Message:
: I made my first batch of buttercream icing with the new Crisco. I had stocked up on the old but finally ran out. The icing with the O trans fat Crisco seemed very nice when I made it but till I got the cake to the reception hall the icing started sliding off the one layer. I was able to repair it and pray it stayed there till the reception. I use 2 cups high ration and one cup Crisco to 6 pounds of powdered sugar. Any suggestions what I need to do to it to make it less slippery? Also, I always use Duncan Hines cake mixes but the couple wanted milk chocolate so I used a Betty Crocker for the top cake that had the icing problem. The other layers were Duncan Hines and the icing stayed on them.
Subject: Re: Slippery icing
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 08:54:15 04/28/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 63.104.25.194
Message:
: : I made my first batch of buttercream icing with the new Crisco. I had stocked up on the old but finally ran out. The icing with the O trans fat Crisco seemed very nice when I made it but till I got the cake to the reception hall the icing started sliding off the one layer. I was able to repair it and pray it stayed there till the reception. I use 2 cups high ration and one cup Crisco to 6 pounds of powdered sugar. Any suggestions what I need to do to it to make it less slippery? Also, I always use Duncan Hines cake mixes but the couple wanted milk chocolate so I used a Betty Crocker for the top cake that had the icing problem. The other layers were Duncan Hines and the icing stayed on them.
Subject: Re: Slippery icing
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 19:17:13 04/27/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
Message:
I'd almost be certain it was the new Crisco because so many of us had problems with it. I switched completely. I don't think it would be the Betty Crocker cake mix. I've used Betty Crocker all of my years in baking and swear by it and always have lots of compliments on how moist and good my cakes are. Right after Crisco changed, one of my friends called saying practically all her icing had slid off the cake she'd taken to her nephew's graduation party and what did she need to do. Crisco lost a lot of customers!
Subject: heart cake problem?
From: sabrina
To: All
Date Posted: 21:58:38 04/09/08 ()
Email Address: chopin1@wideopenwest.com
Entered From: at 67.149.212.237
Message:
I made a yellow cake last night in a 14 inch heart pan. I filled it about half full, but it rose quite high in the middle and I thought perhaps I had overfilled it. Well, it baked well except that the humps on the top seemed to bake quicker than the bottom! So as the cake seems great and I turn it out, the humps are darker than the rest and seem a tad tougher just on the edges. I'm wondering if I can just trim those edges off? I've never had to do that before, but don't want to waste all of that cake. I wrapped it well in plastic wrap while still slightly warm in case I accidentally did overbake a tad and then cooled completely and stuck in the freezer. I'm letting it thaw now...anyone have any suggestions? I've seen many books that say to trim the edges if they're too brown, but I'm still a little afraid of how far the toughness/dryness penetrated! Any help is appreciated:)
Subject: Re: heart cake problem?
From: anna n
To: All
Date Posted: 09:52:26 04/10/08 ()
Email Address: anan@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 208.202.108.50
Message:
I always trim the edges off my wedding cake layers because I think it makes a prettier cake when you cut it--no brown edges. It also helps if your cake has cooked a little too much on the edges. It trims away the hard part. I wouldn't ever discard it unless it was truly overcooked through most of the cake. Wrapping it and freezing it as you did will help it, too. If I were you, I would trim the edges a little while it's still frozen (it's easier to trim that way), and then proceed as usual.
: I made a yellow cake last night in a 14 inch heart pan. I filled it about half full, but it rose quite high in the middle and I thought perhaps I had overfilled it. Well, it baked well except that the humps on the top seemed to bake quicker than the bottom! So as the cake seems great and I turn it out, the humps are darker than the rest and seem a tad tougher just on the edges. I'm wondering if I can just trim those edges off? I've never had to do that before, but don't want to waste all of that cake. I wrapped it well in plastic wrap while still slightly warm in case I accidentally did overbake a tad and then cooled completely and stuck in the freezer. I'm letting it thaw now...anyone have any suggestions? I've seen many books that say to trim the edges if they're too brown, but I'm still a little afraid of how far the toughness/dryness penetrated! Any help is appreciated:)
Subject: Re: heart cake problem?
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:24:44 04/10/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.162
Message:
Try turning your oven down the next time you use this same pan. It will bake more evenly with less of a hump. After trimming away the dry edges, mix up a solution of sugar and water - 1/2 cup sugar to about 4 heaping tablespoons full of white sugar and microwave for a minute. Stir until sugar disappears and spoon over the edges of your heart cake. This will help re-hydrate it.
: I always trim the edges off my wedding cake layers because I think it makes a prettier cake when you cut it--no brown edges. It also helps if your cake has cooked a little too much on the edges. It trims away the hard part. I wouldn't ever discard it unless it was truly overcooked through most of the cake. Wrapping it and freezing it as you did will help it, too. If I were you, I would trim the edges a little while it's still frozen (it's easier to trim that way), and then proceed as usual.
: I made a yellow cake last night in a 14 inch heart pan. I filled it about half full, but it rose quite high in the middle and I thought perhaps I had overfilled it. Well, it baked well except that the humps on the top seemed to bake quicker than the bottom! So as the cake seems great and I turn it out, the humps are darker than the rest and seem a tad tougher just on the edges. I'm wondering if I can just trim those edges off? I've never had to do that before, but don't want to waste all of that cake. I wrapped it well in plastic wrap while still slightly warm in case I accidentally did overbake a tad and then cooled completely and stuck in the freezer. I'm letting it thaw now...anyone have any suggestions? I've seen many books that say to trim the edges if they're too brown, but I'm still a little afraid of how far the toughness/dryness penetrated! Any help is appreciated:)
Subject: Re: heart cake problem?
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 07:55:38 04/19/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
The other advice is great. But one other thing makes this happen OLD CAKE MIX...or very cold box mix. Sometimes small stores don't move box mix quickly enough and the moisture dries out.
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: one year old allergic to my icing
From: Judy in PA
To: All
Date Posted: 17:09:58 04/06/08 ()
Email Address: je136@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
Message:
I made a large cake yesterday for a one year old. Also made him a small smash cake. When I got to church today everyone who was at the party began telling me about how the little boy was allergic to my icing. Apparently he was having a good time smearing the icing all over his face. They first noticed his face starting to get red and they wiped him off. Shortly after that he broke out in hives all over his face. The cake was a plain white cake and the icing was white buttercream made with Crisco, meringue powder, powdered sugar, water, and flavoring. Any suggestions as to white might have caused his outbreak?
Subject: Re: one year old allergic to my icing
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 20:53:25 04/08/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
Denise could be right, but when one of my sons was quite small, I made up some icing with meringue powder (normally never used it in my icing) and he loved graham crackers and icing after school and so he ate some that afternoon and got really sick. We knew he was already allergic to eggs and then it dawned on me - the meringue powder, so I've never used it again in my icing - no need to use it- Wilton just wants you to buy it!! :)
Subject: Re: one year old allergic to my icing
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 17:28:38 04/06/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.162
Message:
YES! I know what did it. Not the icing but the darn dye in the party napkins they used to wipe his face off with. Had the same thing happen to one of my customers at her little one's one year old's birthday party. I went carefully over all the ingredients in the cake and the IMBC and the mother confirmed that the baby had had them all before but without a rash. I asked when it happened and she said right after we wiped her mouth off. I asked what they used to wipe her down with and it was the party napkin. BINGO. She said that it didn't take long before the rash disappeared and didn't come back. I think this is your problem as well. It's the dye not the icing.
: I made a large cake yesterday for a one year old. Also made him a small smash cake. When I got to church today everyone who was at the party began telling me about how the little boy was allergic to my icing. Apparently he was having a good time smearing the icing all over his face. They first noticed his face starting to get red and they wiped him off. Shortly after that he broke out in hives all over his face. The cake was a plain white cake and the icing was white buttercream made with Crisco, meringue powder, powdered sugar, water, and flavoring. Any suggestions as to white might have caused his outbreak?
Subject: re:little boy allergic to icing
From: sabrina
To: All
Date Posted: 21:54:40 04/09/08 ()
Email Address: chopin1@wideopenwest.com
Entered From: at 67.149.212.237
Message:
It might have been a soy reaction or even a cross reaction to soy if he was allergic to peanuts or tree nuts. I had to look up ingredients that might cause a reaction for an order I had and lo and behold, both cake mixes and crisco have soy in them! So maybe you just discovered the little boy is allergic to tree nuts or soy!!!
Subject: Ingredient labels
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 07:57:38 04/19/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 208.102.238.28
Message:
I guess you need to put ingredient labels on your cakes. It would at least guard agains libel suit. What do the rest of you think? Does anyone do that?
Dolores
Subject: Just wondering....
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 19:02:26 04/23/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
Perhaps the family didn't know the kid had allergies, but if they did, wouldn't think they'd ask some question before feeding the kid something?
: I guess you need to put ingredient labels on your cakes. It would at least guard agains libel suit. What do the rest of you think? Does anyone do that?
Dolores
Subject: When ordering fondant how do you know what quantity to order
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 03:18:52 04/02/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 66.81.56.198
Message:
I am making a 6,10,14 wedding cake for April 26th and need to order Satin Ice fondant. In their brochure is states ounces for each size do they figure in the exact amount or a little over? If I calculated correctly I would need 4 pounds 7 ounces of fondant. But I need to make a 1 inch band around the bottom of the top and middle layers with dots. The bottom tier has a fondant white picket fence. Should I be safe with 7 lbs or should I make the bride pay for 10 lbs? TIA.
Subject: Re: When ordering fondant how do you know what quantity to order
From: Natalie
To: All
Date Posted: 09:12:05 04/06/08 ()
Email Address: nrjcake@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
I think 7lbs doesn't sound like enough. You need to account for more fondant than is actually used because it has to be rolled out much larger than the amount you need. Have you worked with fondant before?
: I am making a 6,10,14 wedding cake for April 26th and need to order Satin Ice fondant. In their brochure is states ounces for each size do they figure in the exact amount or a little over? If I calculated correctly I would need 4 pounds 7 ounces of fondant. But I need to make a 1 inch band around the bottom of the top and middle layers with dots. The bottom tier has a fondant white picket fence. Should I be safe with 7 lbs or should I make the bride pay for 10 lbs? TIA.
Subject: Re: When ordering fondant how do you know what quantity to order
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 12:22:39 04/02/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
Angela, how do you price your cakes? Most of us price them per slice for whatever icing they have. Do you charge differently? It sounds like maybe you charge them for the fondant on top of the cake price?? Explain how you do it. I'd think you'd be safe with 7#, but I'm not that experienced with fondant as most of my customers request that it be buttercream.
Subject: ISO: Wilton picket fence pattern
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 19:59:34 03/30/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 66.81.57.60
Message:
Does anyone have the Wilton picket fence patter that they can email me? I can't seem to find mine and need it for a wedding cake.TIA.
Subject: Re: ISO: Wilton picket fence pattern
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 13:07:12 04/09/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 216.23.21.230
Message:
Here is a cake wilton made and there is a link to the patterns at top of cake instructions.
http://www.wilton.com/recipes/recipesandprojects/mothersday/aplantersparadise.cfm
Subject: Does anyone have a really good buttercream recipe
From: Angela
To: All
Date Posted: 00:36:02 03/28/08 ()
Email Address: sweettreats@rcip.com
Entered From: at 66.81.56.43
Message:
for making flowers that they can share. I need to make 24 spring flowers
today and my recipe contains butter and is a little difficult to use for
flowers.
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a really good buttercream recipe
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 16:44:36 03/28/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
If i need piped flowers, I use this recipe. Piped flowers can be refrigerated
til firm or frozen and then placed on the cake....or, if you can make them
a few days ahead (2-3) they will air dry nicely!
2 pounds sifted powdered sugar
1/2 cup sifted cake flour
1 1/2 cups shortening
1/3 cup near boiling water
Mix the sugar and flour well. Add the shortening and all the nearly boiling water. Mix on low until very smooth....you can add some flavoring if desired.
Allow to sit at room temp a couple hours, then restir before using.
: for making flowers that they can share. I need to make 24 spring
flowers today and my recipe contains butter and is a little difficult to
use for flowers.
Subject: By the way....
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 16:45:44 03/28/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
If the icing is too firm, add a few teaspoons more near boiling water
to thin a bit.....it firms somewhat on standing.
: If i need piped flowers, I use this recipe. Piped flowers can be refrigerated til firm or frozen and then placed on the cake....or, if you can make them a few days ahead (2-3) they will air dry nicely!
2 pounds sifted powdered sugar
1/2 cup sifted cake flour
1 1/2 cups shortening
1/3 cup near boiling water
Mix the sugar and flour well. Add the shortening and all the nearly boiling water. Mix on low until very smooth....you can add some flavoring if desired.
Allow to sit at room temp a couple hours, then restir before using.
: for making flowers that they can share. I need to make 24 spring
flowers today and my recipe contains butter and is a little difficult to
use for flowers.
Subject: Re: By the way.... Message: I am still doing them for family, of course. I ordered a 3# container of the high ratio shortening from Dolores because I could never get comfortable with the new Crisco. What do you use? I can't say I was overly impressed with the new shortening either...it took twice as much flavoring as usual and still didn't taste as good to me... Subject: Softening Fondant
Message:
From: Barbara R
To: All
Date Posted: 13:02:49 04/22/08 ()
Email Address: sambar63@suddenlink.net
Entered From: at 74.194.45.45
Hey Jeff, I haven't been on the board in several months. I closed my business in Dec. and moved to a new location and plan to remain retired from caking for the public.
From: Carolyn
To: All
Date Posted: 08:35:24 03/14/08 ()
Email Address: roddencaro@msn.com
Entered From: at 75.167.67.63
I was just wondering if hardened Fondant can be softened up again or
not? Thanks!
Subject: Re: Softening Fondant
From: Natalie
To: All
Date Posted: 12:21:35 03/15/08 ()
Email Address: nrjcake@aol.com
Entered From: at 205.188.117.207
Message:
I have found that if these methods don't work right away, then I just
cut off the hard part. I have ruined too much fondant by trying to knead
in the hard parts into perfectly good fondant which also increased my labor
time.
: I was just wondering if hardened Fondant can be softened up again or not? Thanks!
Subject: Re: Softening Fondant
From: EileenPA
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:19 03/15/08 ()
Email Address: eileen@cakeartstudio.com
Entered From: at 70.20.198.5
Message:
: I was just wondering if hardened Fondant can be softened up again
or not? Thanks!
If the outside has formed a crust: Moisten a paper towel and wrap it around the outside of the fondant and then put it in a plastic bag or saran wrap. Leave it for a couple of hours or overnight. The will sometimes re-moisten the outside layer.
If it's not crusty, but just a little dry, you can try kneading in some
shortening.
Subject: Re: Softening Fondant
From: Roseanna
To: All
Date Posted: 10:15:01 03/14/08 ()
Email Address: fearless-baker@flash.net
Entered From: at 75.16.80.8
Message:
i soften mine by putting it in the microwave starting at 5 second intervals.
If it's lide a rock it may not work that well.
Subject: Re: Softening Fondant
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:50 03/16/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.197
Message:
I agree. I would evaluate the outside and if it's rock hard, take a
knife and cut the hard parts off. Then take the rest and place on a greased
piece of saran and microwave for a few seconds at a time until soft - remember
the inner core gets hottest first.
: i soften mine by putting it in the microwave starting at 5 second
intervals. If it's lide a rock it may not work that well.
Subject: Thank You for all the responses!
From: Carolyn - Iowa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:42 03/19/08 ()
Email Address: roddencaro@msn.com
Entered From: at 75.167.67.63
Message:
Thanks for all the suggestions & help ideas.
Subject: supporting a 6-7 layer beer can cake
From: sabrina
To: All
Date Posted: 20:34:51 03/12/08 ()
Email Address: chopin1@wideopenwest.com
Entered From: at 67.149.212.237
Message:
Hey all-am making a beer can cake-should I put dowel rods through the
entire cake into the cake board to make it more stable? I'm using either
6 or 7 layers of 7" cake....just wondering! Thanks:)
Subject: Re: supporting a 6-7 layer beer can cake
From: Jeanne PA
To: All
Date Posted: 06:43:32 03/21/08 ()
Email Address: EZCakes@AOL.com
Entered From: at 72.81.111.118
Message:
I did a beer mug, and I had the very bottom be 1 inch styro, so the
dowel could really be firmly settled. A transport hint...have the dowel
extend about 3 inches above the cake so you have something to hold onto
during transport. Tall narrow cakes tend to be very unstable while driving.
Make the lid separately. when you arrive, cut the doewl off and place the
lid. HTH! : Hey all-am making a beer can cake-should I put dowel rods through
the entire cake into the cake board to make it more stable? I'm using either
6 or 7 layers of 7" cake....just wondering! Thanks:)
Subject: Re: supporting a 6-7 layer beer can cake
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 08:42:17 03/13/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 216.23.59.193
Message:
I always made that 4 two inch layers with support after the first 2.
I used a foil-covered cardboard and drinking straws. The only thing to
watch is that its sort of top heavy because they are tall and same sizes.
Tilting just a little and it could topple.
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: supporting a 6-7 layer beer can cake
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 18:46:46 03/13/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
I would do 6 layers...stak three then dowel, add a cake board 1 inch
smaller and add the other three. Place the whole thing on a 1/2 inch thick
cake drum or foamcore board, then sharpen a dowel and drive it all the
way down through all siz layer and into the bottom board...it will hold
fine!
: I always made that 4 two inch layers with support after the first
2. I used a foil-covered cardboard and drinking straws. The only thing
to watch is that its sort of top heavy because they are tall and same sizes.
Tilting just a little and it could topple.
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Impression mats on buttercream icing
From: Foodguy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:19:51 03/11/08 ()
Email Address: foodguy2000@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 24.169.140.249
Message:
Can anyone explain to me how to use impression mats, such as the Dots
or Quilted designs, on a buttercream iced cake? I'm assuming that it needs
to be a crusting buttercream, as opposed to a whipped buttercream?; but
not sure if I understand the process. Thank you.
Subject: Re: Impression mats on buttercream icing
From: Carolyn (MO)
To: All
Date Posted: 20:37:22 03/11/08 ()
Email Address: bridal1@aol.com
Entered From: at 64.12.117.207
Message:
Terry, I let the crusting buttercream set for a few minutes - maybe
10-15 - and then I use the mats. The one I especially like is the diamond
one. So easy to use and then I put the pearls or whatever in the points
of the diamonds as soon as I get it marked. That way the dragees or pearls
go right into the icing and you don't have to put more icing on them to
get them to set up. I also have a handle on some of mine, but not sure
what it is called - got them at Home Depot - maybe sort of a kitchen cabinet
type handle, but cheap ones!
Subject: Re: Impression mats on buttercream icing
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:09 03/11/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
My icing doesn't crust....so I chill my cake until firm. Since it is
difficult to wrap the mat around a cake like this, I cut the mat into section
[about 3 repreats of the design] and glued a handle on back and work just
a section at a time until done.
: Can anyone explain to me how to use impression mats, such as the Dots or Quilted designs, on a buttercream iced cake? I'm assuming that it needs to be a crusting buttercream, as opposed to a whipped buttercream?; but not sure if I understand the process. Thank you.
Subject: Thanks, Jeff. What a clever idea!
From: Foodguy
To: All
Date Posted: 16:04:06 03/11/08 ()
Email Address: foodguy2000@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 24.169.140.249
Message:
: My icing doesn't crust....so I chill my cake until firm. Since it
is difficult to wrap the mat around a cake like this, I cut the mat into
section [about 3 repreats of the design] and glued a handle on back and
work just a section at a time until done.
: Can anyone explain to me how to use impression mats, such as the Dots
or Quilted designs, on a buttercream iced cake? I'm assuming that it needs
to be a crusting buttercream, as opposed to a whipped buttercream?; but
not sure if I understand the process. Thank you.
Subject: Re: Thanks, Jeff. What a clever idea!
From: Roseanna
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:57 03/14/08 ()
Email Address: fearless-baker@flash.net
Entered From: at 75.16.80.8
Message:
Jeff, What a great idea! I tried using the mats and found it difficult.
I know you can use a stiching wheel on them too. That looks good too.
Subject: Anyone ever iced a cake using a stainless steel cake
ring?
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:23 03/11/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 170.185.149.19
Message:
In this month's American Cake Decorating, there was a demonstration
of icing a layer cake using a 4 inch tall stainless steel cake ring. They
place the ring on a cake board, iced the inside 1/2 inch thick, then place
one cake layer in the ring and use a pipne bag with a long round tip to
fill the gap betwee, the iced ring and the cake, added the filling and
second cake layer, repeated filling the gap, then iced the top and took
a metal rule across the top of the ring to smooth the top out. Then they
chilled the whole thing, removed from the refrigerator, placed on a turntable
and heated the ring slightly with a hair dryer until it slipped up off...the
result was a perfect 4 inch tall layer with straight sides and a perfectly
smooth level top....it really looked easier than my explanation and I'd
like to give it a try!
Subject: Re: Anyone ever iced a cake using a stainless steel
cake rin
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 08:45:28 03/13/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 216.23.59.193
Message:
My opinion ONLY...this is one gadget I could do without! A good straight
firm bladed spatula is the best I have found...and fastest way. I wonder
what that would cost you!
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: Re: Anyone ever iced a cake using a stainless steel
cake rin
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 18:43:37 03/13/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
I actually have a couple of them....used to buy them before odd sized
pans were easily avaialable. You could place them on a triple layer of
paper towels on a baking sheet and use them as a cake pan.
They cost about $20 from the supplier mention in the article in ACD.
: My opinion ONLY...this is one gadget I could do without! A good straight
firm bladed spatula is the best I have found...and fastest way. I wonder
what that would cost you!
Dolores at http://www.sugarcraft.com
Subject: We also carry them - nt
From: Dolores
To: All
Date Posted: 15:55:08 03/26/08 ()
Email Address: proicer@sugarcraft.com
Entered From: at 216.23.59.239
Message:
nt
Subject: Hydrangea Stamens for GP Hydrangea
From: Jeff
To: All
Date Posted: 14:06:13 03/04/08 ()
Email Address: jsarnett@foothills.net
Entered From: at 69.176.45.235
Message:
Anyone besides me hate making all those little stamens for GP hydrangea.
Any suggestions on a quicker way to make them? I have the silicone mold
from First Impressions Molds, but you still have to make them one at a
time.
I live to find some artifical ones that were on stiff stems....most artifical stamens are too flimsy to support the flowers.
Any ideas?
Subject: Re: Hydrangea Stamens for GP Hydrangea
From: DeniseNH
To: All
Date Posted: 18:46:16 03/04/08 ()
Email Address: foxden@tellink.net
Entered From: at 69.131.103.197
Message:
Rosemary Wa